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dumbanddumber
12-04-2006, 06:14 PM
Great episode, although I liked the last two a bit better. Sorry to see the Pixie Chick go, I was actually growing to like her.

Lots of questions...

--So Peter absorbs Radioactive Man's power and blows up the city? Does Nathan fly him away to safety?

--Who does HRG work for?

--Who is the Haitian and what did he say to Claire?

--and HOLY SHIT Hiro fights a dinosaur!!!!

Nice Simpsons and Star Trek shoutouts by Hiro tonight!

may1
12-04-2006, 06:24 PM
I thought this was another great episode.
Peter holds alot of cards, doesn't he.
Eden wasn't evil after all.
Hiro better find his sword.
Isaac can paint while straight.
What did eraser man say to Claire?
Why did Niki turn herself in to the cops?
Why must I wait til January?:sad:

silentfire
12-04-2006, 06:33 PM
1- Im not sure if peter absorbs Radioactive guys power although it does seem like that. Im thinking maybe a little bit of Sylar is in Peter and this is what made him sick and see what he saw, perhaps we underestimate just how powerful/smart Sylar really is. Regardless there is noway Nathon could save Peter in the scenario considering even if he flew peter out, both would still die.

2-Im wondering who HRG was also talking to on his cellphone in that scene, Im assuming Linderman or some other power high up that we have yet to see.

3-The haitain (Am I the only one that found it strange that this is how the show portrays him?) told claire that HRG told him to erase her memory like he did her mother, zack and her brother. But he isn't going to erase her memory because I assume he knows she is important, although that seems wierd seeing as how only HRG knows the full scope of save the cheerleader save the world line.

4- I think that was a T-Rex that Hiro was fighting, this is why Ando commented on how Isaac is suppose to paint only the future? Hiro time travels back to Dino-era for the sword?


I loved the scenes between HRG and Sylar. I hated the Nikki storyline, it seriously needs to go, moreso then Mohinder. I loved the ending, both Peters and Sylar vs Eden. I don't know whether Eden shot herself or if Sylar used his telekenisis to force Eden to shoot herself. Maybe he didn't shoot her in the head but just shot her which still leaves him time to get to her brain. Im thinking this because it seemed that Edens hand was shaking because she was trying not to kill herself. Also I don't understand why Sylar wasn't affected by her persuasion, does this mean that he wasn't under the influence of her when she was captured but rather it was the Eraser?

jampony
12-04-2006, 06:52 PM
So Peter absorbs Radioactive Man's power and blows up the city? Does Nathan fly him away to safety?
How could Nathan fly Peter away to safety if Peter is the bomb?

Why did Niki turn herself in to the cops?
To save Micah (and probably D.L.) from Jessica.

1- Im not sure if peter absorbs Radioactive guys power although it does seem like that. Im thinking maybe a little bit of Sylar is in Peter and this is what made him sick and see what he saw, perhaps we underestimate just how powerful/smart Sylar really is. Regardless there is noway Nathan could save Peter in the scenario considering even if he flew peter out, both would still die.
Peter doesn't keep the powers he gets from others for any length of time and I don't think Sylar had any precog powers anyway. But I still don't get why Peter got sick (what was with the cough?) and had a premonition. Who was at the station who had those powers? Was the radioactive guy still being held there? Might explain the sickness and how Peter eventually blows up, but not how he saw it happening.

3-The haitain (Am I the only one that found it strange that this is how the show portrays him?) told claire that HRG told him to erase her memory like he did her mother, zack and her brother. But he isn't going to erase her memory because I assume he knows she is important, although that seems wierd seeing as how only HRG knows the full scope of save the cheerleader save the world line.
We don't really know who knows what. I think it's very interesting, though, that the Haitian (it drives me nuts that they call him that) might be turning against HRG.

4- I think that was a T-Rex that Hiro was fighting, this is why Ando commented on how Isaac is suppose to paint only the future? Hiro time travels back to Dino-era for the sword?
'Cause dinosaurs were famous for their sword-making abilities. ;)

I don't know whether Eden shot herself or if Sylar used his telekenisis to force Eden to shoot herself. Maybe he didn't shoot her in the head but just shot her which still leaves him time to get to her brain. Im thinking this because it seemed that Edens hand was shaking because she was trying not to kill herself.
I think Eden shot herself to prevent Sylar from getting her powers. Her hand was shaking because he was trying to stop her. But why didn't he use his special glass breaking ability to get out earlier? Was he waiting for his chance to get Eden's power?

Also I don't understand why Sylar wasn't affected by her persuasion, does this mean that he wasn't under the influence of her when she was captured but rather it was the Eraser?
Good question!

dumbanddumber
12-04-2006, 07:06 PM
Actually, I meant that Nathan flies Peter away, and the city is saved ... maybe flies him way up where he can't do any damage (but obviously Pete and Nate are killed).

And Sylar could have been affected by her persuasion, remember that Eden said, "I'm gonna put the gun in the chute, then you're going to take it and blow your brains out." He acted BEFORE she could put the gun in the chute; maybe that's the limitation to her power. If she had said, "Sit in the corner and do nothing, then pick up the gun and shoot yourself after I leave," then he would've been in trouble.

ClumsyBoy
12-04-2006, 07:06 PM
Damn this is what i call a really mind trip episode and like Suresh says more
questions instead of answers.

Is Peter still with the effects of Syler 's powers? (is that triggering his metamorphosis)

Did Syler took Pixys powers before she died or fail at it?

WooHoo Hiro is going to fight the Monster or.....? nvm you guys will figure it out.



Are thoses Producers nuts now we have to wait for 48 days for the rest of the Heroes adventures...

Firecat
12-04-2006, 08:19 PM
How can a show be so awesome?!?!

I like this Haitian guy, what a turn of events. Claire was looking super hot. :cool:

I was thinking for some time now that the radioactive guy was the bomb, I guess I was kinda close....

J-Unit
12-04-2006, 09:29 PM
OMFG BEST SHOW EVER!!!

I'll be writing about it all day tomorrow. but wow! wow!

I am speechless!

jampony
12-05-2006, 02:26 AM
I am speechless!
Well, that doesn't bode well for your recap, does it? ;)

jampony
12-05-2006, 02:35 AM
Actually, I meant that Nathan flies Peter away, and the city is saved ... maybe flies him way up where he can't do any damage (but obviously Pete and Nate are killed).
Oh, but how sad! Or, how awesome (depending on your dislike of these two)!

Claire was looking super hot. :cool:
Underage!


I was thinking for some time now that the radioactive guy was the bomb, I guess I was kinda close....
Isn't it cool when you're right? I got a kick out of Ando telling Hiro that it's "Save the cheerleader. Then save the world." And Hiro saying, "no, it's an if, then statement" 'cause that's a question I was wondering about for a while now. :D

On a side note, anyone see the previews for Balboa? It's gonna be a crooked lipfest for sure!

dumbanddumber
12-05-2006, 04:40 AM
[QUOTE=jampony;26558]
Isn't it cool when you're right? I got a kick out of Ando telling Hiro that it's "Save the cheerleader. Then save the world." And Hiro saying, "no, it's an if, then statement" 'cause that's a question I was wondering about for a while now. :D
QUOTE]

That was great ... I loved it when Ando said, "Future you is not that same as you!"

Jinger
12-05-2006, 05:14 AM
Holy crap!!!! I was blown away last night! Was anyone else thinking that all the things that are discussed in the forums seemed to be plucked out and answered in tonight's episode!? If I didn't know there was such a lag time between shooting and airing an episode I'd swear they read forums and then write the script!

I too am confused what is wrong with Peter and why he is suddenly sick. I thought at first that maybe he didn't fully heal some internal injuries b/c Claire had left him but if that was the case he would have been fine when she was in there with him? But either way, shouldn't he have been fine when she was in there with him!?

Poor Claire....no one remembering and feeling so alone. And I think that the Haitian was on Eden's side as far as them having to kill Sylar, when they were in the hallway she said "and if the Haitian could talk he'd agree with me!" I was surprised when he DID talk, I wonder why he never talks to HRG or Eden. I think he let Claire keep her memory b/c she needs to be aware that someone is trying to hurt her. With no memory, she is a sitting duck for Sylar.

I do think Eden shot herself to prevent Sylar from getting her powers and I am still confused as to why he waited to use his powers to get out. And can I just say I jumped out of my seat when he pulled her through that glass!?

I am hoping that Peter's dream of blowing up is something that can be prevented somehow. And he didn't have a scar in the dream so what future Hiro said hadn't happened yet...but this space/time thing changes too much from episode to episode.

Pekmboyd
12-05-2006, 06:09 AM
...but this space/time thing changes too much from episode to episode.

That's my only concern with this show, any time the writers back themselves into a corner they can just have Hiro change the past and claim the future changed......that said, AWESOME show!!!

Jinger
12-05-2006, 06:29 AM
I don't know if anyone goes to the NBC site and reads the comics they have every week, but they have the new one up and it's good. Not sure if it would be considered spoiler-ish because typically the things they cover in the comics mostly just gives additional background info that is never really touched on in the show. It lets you know what happened after Eden dies though.....

Karo
12-05-2006, 06:52 AM
Well, that doesn't bode well for your recap, does it? ;)

Hee, hee. That was funny, Jampony!

You all catch so much more than I ever do. I wish it would come out on DVD NOW so I could watch fourteen times and feel like I understand something.

HoneyBunny
12-05-2006, 06:57 AM
Turns out Peter is (literally) 'Da Bomb!


hb

tati
12-05-2006, 07:12 AM
To save Micah (and probably D.L.) from Jessica.

I was wondering about that---does Niki think this will really work, turning herself in? How long before Jessica shows up & kicks her way out of squad car/jail? Maybe she was just trying to buy some time for Micah & DL. Not too crazy about this storyline.

I think Eden shot herself to prevent Sylar from getting her powers. Her hand was shaking because he was trying to stop her. But why didn't he use his special glass breaking ability to get out earlier? Was he waiting for his chance to get Eden's power?

Aha! When I saw that scene, I assumed that Sylar made Eden kill herself and I figured he could still reach in & scoop her brain out. I like this idea better (that she killed herself so he wouldn't get her power)--great sacrifice but man, could you imagine Sylar with the ability to convince anyone? fugghedabit, show's over! I agree also --- why did Sylar wait so long to break the glass? Maybe he realized he had more to gain if Eden eventually showed up & he could try to steal her power, as opposed to killing HRG when they were alone together?

I thought at first that maybe he didn't fully heal some internal injuries b/c Claire had left him but if that was the case he would have been fine when she was in there with him? But either way, shouldn't he have been fine when she was in there with him!?

I wondered about too---Peter's cough seemed more pronounced all of a sudden when Claire came to visit so i was sure that it would clear up when the 2 of them were talking alone in the cell.

Poor Claire....no one remembering and feeling so alone. And I think that the Haitian was on Eden's side as far as them having to kill Sylar, when they were in the hallway she said "and if the Haitian could talk he'd agree with me!" I was surprised when he DID talk, I wonder why he never talks to HRG or Eden. I think he let Claire keep her memory b/c she needs to be aware that someone is trying to hurt her. With no memory, she is a sitting duck for Sylar.

I ddn't understand that either---if HRG was sending Eraser to clear Lyle & Zach's memory, you'd think he would've ordered him to erase Claire's memory first---otherwise, she'd think people were going bugging out (as she did). Pops could've at least warned her---'I'm going to make sure no one knows/ remembers' (like when he explained why they needed to get rid of the tapes, she understood the need for that). Jinger made a good point tho---if Claire has no memory, she won't suspect Sylar if he ever approaches her---so why would HRG not realize that?? He's on top of all the other precautions concerning his daughter. Odd.

silentfire
12-05-2006, 07:24 AM
I ddn't understand that either---if HRG was sending Eraser to clear Lyle & Zach's memory, you'd think he would've ordered him to erase Claire's memory first---otherwise, she'd think people were going bugging out (as she did). Pops could've at least warned her---'I'm going to make sure no one knows/ remembers' (like when he explained why they needed to get rid of the tapes, she understood the need for that). Jinger made a good point tho---if Claire has no memory, she won't suspect Sylar if he ever approaches her---so why would HRG not realize that?? He's on top of all the other precautions concerning his daughter. Odd.

In HRG's mind Sylar is captured and there was no way for him to escape, they were going to keep him locked up for quiet sometime and probably control his powers or figure out more about him. So he wasn't worried about Sylar escaping and finding claire

Ms. Tumnus
12-05-2006, 08:16 AM
How come Sylar could use his powers all of a sudden but not before?

Why did Isaac's eyes do the creepy-white thing when he was painting Dino-Hiro, but they didn't when he was sketching the comic book?

Can the Haitian talk but been keeping it secret, or could it be that when he's touching someone he "talks" to them telepathically?

How did Eden have Hiro's name and number, and why would she think it's important for Isaac to talk to him rather than another Hero?

Jinger
12-05-2006, 08:20 AM
How did Eden have Hiro's name and number, and why would she think it's important for Isaac to talk to him rather than another Hero?

I thought HRG had the "list" that Mohinder's dad had and that would be how she got the info maybe?! As far as picking him to be the one he get in touch with, just another Heroes mystery I guess...

And I also remembered today how I (and everyone else!) thought Claire's mom was on something because of how weird she always acted, then when Haitian guy said about erasing her mind many times it all made sense. she's been wiped clean so many times it makes sense that she's a total nut-job!

angelic_shy_sweet_guy
12-05-2006, 08:51 AM
I don't know if anyone goes to the NBC site and reads the comics they have every week, but they have the new one up and it's good. Not sure if it would be considered spoiler-ish because typically the things they cover in the comics mostly just gives additional background info that is never really touched on in the show. It lets you know what happened after Eden dies though.....It is good and it makes me like HRG even more. Also, I think they sometimes use the comic, so that they don't have show certain things in the show (it's cheaper :p ). It's also a way to get people to go to the site.

Sylar's abilities may have been suppressed by drugs, which would explain why he couldn't get out earlier. HRG was certainly confident that he was safe from Sylar.

Peter might not have healed because maybe the Haitian (Why can't they at least give him a code name that HRG uses?) was suppressing his and her powers. I also thought it might be because he was just emptying his lungs of blood or something. Or maybe he's copying the sickness in the people in the hospital. :p

With Hiro's inability to fully control his power, I think he'll accidentally travel back in time too far. Don't know how much a sword will do against a T-Rex though. :eek:

Niki turning herself in might clear DL's name at least. I really hope they get over all the dysfunction soon and play a better role in saving the world.

mistress_heather
12-05-2006, 09:08 AM
Ok, I'm with those who think Eden killed herself before Sylar could get her power. As for Peter's illness...clueless. Hiro vs. Godzilla....clueless (unless he teleports into Night at the Museum) Haitian speak...not a flippin' idea.....why must we wait so long??? Why did Claire say "I'm sorry" to Peter in his vision? Why was Isaac trying to keep Simone away from him? It's like they all set him up as a sacrificial lamb......maybe they put him with Ted the Radioactive Caveman so that he could absorb TRC's power and it would just dwindle away in Peter and not explode.....

no, it's my head that's exploding from all this.....what am I gonna do in January when it is Hiro vs. Jack Bauer????? The networks are trying to kill me!

tati
12-05-2006, 09:11 AM
In HRG's mind Sylar is captured and there was no way for him to escape, they were going to keep him locked up for quiet sometime and probably control his powers or figure out more about him. So he wasn't worried about Sylar escaping and finding claire

that's a good point, silentfire, that makes sense, HRG wouldn't have feared Sylar escaping and trying to find Claire again. I still think he could've just warned Claire that he was going to erase the other's minds so she wouldn't have bugged out so much. It must've been so strange for her to talk to Zach like normal one day & then to have him tell her he hasn't talk'd to her since the sixth grade or whatever.

dumbanddumber
12-05-2006, 09:31 AM
I think that whenever HRG was in with Sylar, the Haitian was in the area ... he seems to have some sort of neutralizing power. When Eden was in with Sylar, she did it while no one was around (because she was sneakingly going to kill him...).

loula
12-05-2006, 12:26 PM
Great episode. I've been really impressed with the momentum of this show. Now all they have to do is give Mohinder's VO something more interesting to do, and get a handle on the whole Niki/DL/Micah story. Seems like it wouldn't be too hard to find a cool storyline for the whole family of Heroes, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Also, I'm glad it wasn't DL who got it, on account of he's dreamy.

Also: definitely, Eden went out a real live hero. You can see her turning the gun towards herself before you see the splatter. I would guess it's hard to figure out how something ticks if it's blown into a zillion pieces. Way to take one for the team, kiddo.

And yeah, what the hell is going on with Peter? Didn't it start around the time Claire came to visit him? Also, am I a horrible person for thinking they had crazy chemistry? Or maybe it's just compared to the complete lack of chemistry he has with Simone. I was kind of annoyed that she was present in his scary sad future vision. The hell? Go away, Simone. Was Hiro even there?

Speaking of Peter sploding, I'm thinking he just couldn't handle that much power in one place at one time and his body was just overwhelmed? Or Radioactive Man was lurking offscreen somewhere and Peter was channeling his ability? Those dreams have to be connected to Mohinder's dreams, but in this last one Mohinder was a few thousand miles away. Maybe there's some sort of SuperResidue left when Peter absorbs other powers.

mistress_heather, if I hadn't decided to pay the extra $12 for DVR, I don't know what I'd do with myself. Get a life, perhaps, but that's not the point I'm trying to make. As it is, sometimes there are three things on at once and I have to watch something in the other room. Choosing between Veronica Mars and House? Why would they do that to a person? Also, when did television get so good all of a sudden?

HoneyBunny
12-05-2006, 12:38 PM
Who told HRG not to whack Sylar? Linderman?



hb

tati
12-05-2006, 01:04 PM
And yeah, what the hell is going on with Peter? Didn't it start around the time Claire came to visit him? Also, am I a horrible person for thinking they had crazy chemistry?

loula---I noticed that too, I thot his coughing started when Claire came to visit him (& since she was around, I thot it would go away---I thot that that was why Claire had asked HRG to talk to him alone. I too thot I detected some chemistry b/w the 2, but yea, I can't see that being a storyline b/c she's so much younger.

Or maybe it's just compared to the complete lack of chemistry he has with Simone. I was kind of annoyed that she was present in his scary sad future vision. The hell? Go away, Simone. Was Hiro even there?

He was, they showed both Hiro & Ando.

Who told HRG not to whack Sylar? Linderman?
hb

that would be my guess, too---why else would they keep bringing up his name, since the beginning, never giving us enuf info about him or even showing him.

angelic_shy_sweet_guy
12-05-2006, 04:55 PM
Also: definitely, Eden went out a real live hero. You can see her turning the gun towards herself before you see the splatter. I would guess it's hard to figure out how something ticks if it's blown into a zillion pieces. Way to take one for the team, kiddo.
Also, if you look at Sylar's face before she pulls the trigger, he looks shocked that she turned the gun on herself because he thought she was trying to shoot him.

t-bag
12-05-2006, 05:11 PM
There. I finally watched it. My God, that was fantastic.

I agree with those who think HRG was safe from Sylar because he had the Haitian neutralizing him nearby, and he therefore thought Claire was safe, as well. If that's the case, though, why couldn't Sylar escape when the Haitian was gone? Could he escape all along? Perhaps he is more powerful than the Haitian, but he was able to sense he was nearby, and he simply wanted to wait for his opportunity and then escape as well as taking the Haitian's power. But when Eden walked in and he realized the power she held, he seemed genuinely shocked. So I don't think he was waiting for her, but giving up on whatever the Haitian can do for the power to make anyone do anything seemed like a pretty good bargain. I think Sylar can do a lot more than we think.

As for the Hiro vs. T-Rex fight? I'm dying to see this. But I think it's going to be a bit unfair for the dinosaur. All Hiro has to do is freeze time and slice the dinosaur up into a million tiny pieces.

To whomever said they think the writers read the board (I'm too lazy to go back and see who it was), I agree. I was thinking the same thing throughout the whole episode. If that's the case...

Why isn't there more sex on the show?
Can Charlie come back?
Can't you give Ando super-strength or adamantium claws or something?
When is Claire going to have a shower scene?

There. That should make the next episode veeeeery interesting. Speaking of Claire, I know she's underage and all, but things are getting extremely inappropriate. Running in slow motion was a little too much to handle.

And as for Eden, it sucks that they killed her off during the one episode I actually really liked her in. I'm glad she grew a pair of cojones, as did the Haitian. One more question: Did HRG plan on erasing Claire's memory of her powers, or just the events of Homecoming?

I could write pages about this last episode. But I'll stop for now.

dumbanddumber
12-05-2006, 05:13 PM
I don't know if anyone goes to the NBC site and reads the comics they have every week, but they have the new one up and it's good. Not sure if it would be considered spoiler-ish because typically the things they cover in the comics mostly just gives additional background info that is never really touched on in the show. It lets you know what happened after Eden dies though.....

Pretty major revelation about what happened after Eden was killed ... I'd be shocked if it turns out to be canon, because it essentially resolves the cliffhanger. Also, doesn't this one kind of contradict Eden's earlier comic (I didn't go back and read it to check!).

ClumsyBoy
12-05-2006, 05:40 PM
How come Sylar could use his powers all of a sudden but not before?
he may not have his powers at full force since HRG is always with the Haitian dude so he may be shutting them down....

Sylar's abilities may have been suppressed by drugs

maybe that too,or he is interested in acquiring some of choses powers for him self so he may not be capture a second time.


How did Eden have Hiro's name and number, and why would she think it's important for Isaac to talk to him rather than another Hero?

I thought HRG had the "list" that Mohinder's dad had and that would be how she got the info maybe?! As far as picking him to be the one he get in touch with, just another Heroes mystery I guess...

Hiro has being calling Issac all the time since his arrival to the future and was leaving msgs in the answer machine so it is about time that he meet the guy that has being guiding him all this time. Now he knows what to do next...

GO Hiro Find your sword!!!


With Hiro's inability to fully control his power

i recall Hiros saying to Peter that traveling thru time he could cause a rift.that maybe a side effect or the Future Hiro have learn and the current one doesn't know yet.

t-bag
12-05-2006, 11:51 PM
Someone somewhere else pointed out that Eden punched in a code in the wall before talking to Sylar, which maybe was stopping all powers from being used in that area, not just Sylar's. So she had to shut it off in order to use her persuasion, and she just banked on the fact that her powers would work and he would be no threat.

It's obvious that they weren't negating his powers through the Haitian, because he's all over the place in this episode, like usual, so Sylar could have escaped any one of these times.

So maybe this button theory is correct, eh?

jampony
12-06-2006, 02:54 AM
Someone somewhere else pointed out that Eden punched in a code in the wall before talking to Sylar, which maybe was stopping all powers from being used in that area, not just Sylar's. So she had to shut it off in order to use her persuasion, and she just banked on the fact that her powers would work and he would be no threat.

It's obvious that they weren't negating his powers through the Haitian, because he's all over the place in this episode, like usual, so Sylar could have escaped any one of these times.

So maybe this button theory is correct, eh?

That sounds like a good theory. Regarding the Haitian, have we ever seen him block powers before? I thought he could only erase memories. If he could block powers, HRG (who knows everything about everything) should just take the Haitian to New York to stop Radioactive Guy/Peter (whoever it's going to be) from blowing up.

Jinger
12-06-2006, 04:46 AM
Pretty major revelation about what happened after Eden was killed ... I'd be shocked if it turns out to be canon, because it essentially resolves the cliffhanger. Also, doesn't this one kind of contradict Eden's earlier comic (I didn't go back and read it to check!).

I don't think in contradicted her first comic. She was a kid and living w/her dad and stepmom and her dad left her and when she grew up she told her stepmom "why don't you just die" and she did and she left and headed "west". This latest one HRG must have tracked down her father to deliver the news.

That sounds like a good theory. Regarding the Haitian, have we ever seen him block powers before? I thought he could only erase memories. If he could block powers, HRG (who knows everything about everything) should just take the Haitian to New York to stop Radioactive Guy/Peter (whoever it's going to be) from blowing up.

He definitely blocks power...he blocked Matt Parkman in the bar, he blocked him again at the station when Claire and her dad were there, and I think he blocked Sylar when he ran into Eden after he left the HS. His power seems twofold, blocking others powers and erasing their minds. I am not sure that HRG's so concerned with stopping the explosion, his motives are still a mystery. Of course you would think that a normal person in general would want to stop that from happening just for the greater good of mankind, but again, he's such a mystery and not knowing who he is working for is keeping us from understanding what the hell he wants from the Heroes!

ClumsyBoy
12-06-2006, 12:11 PM
Peter might not have healed because maybe the Haitian (Why can't they at least give him a code name that HRG uses?) was suppressing his and her powers. I also thought it might be because he was just emptying his lungs of blood or something. Or maybe he's copying the sickness in the people in the hospital.

you guys remember when Claire said to Peter in that Vision of the future she was sorry well she maybe the reason why he is becoming sick.

In episode 6 after she "met" her Bio parents Clair was talking to her adopted mother she mention she had condition with here DNA some disease she describe as a Cough. Isn't the same reaction that Peter is having right now?

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Jinger
12-06-2006, 12:32 PM
I guess I am interpreting her "I'm sorry..." completely different than everyone else. I took it more like she ran to him and realized that there wasn't anything she could do and basically had to retreat and was saying sorry for not being able to help/running away. I thought it was a benign I'm Sorry kind of thing...

I don't recall anything about her telling her fake "real" parents about a cough, but that her dad did tell her AFTER the fake parents left about an incident when she was a baby/younger and being sick and when she pressed him what it was he said "oh it was just a cough" which was more to just appease her.

Just goes to show...no matter how thin you slice it there's always 2 sides!

PassiveAggressive
12-06-2006, 12:39 PM
Also, if we look back to the ep where we first met Eden, didnt the eraser guy block her powers when HGR was trying to talk her into working for them. I do not remember the exact quote, but it was something like "Someone you can't tell what to do." does anyone else remember this?

minda07
12-06-2006, 12:46 PM
1st - I interpreted the "Im sorry" the same way as Jinger. It was a im sorry I can't help you thing

2nd - I am almost 100% certain that the conversation about the cough happened between Claire and her adopted mom. She was telling her that when she was little that she was sick and when she gave her a wierd look her mom said it was just a cough as if she wasn't supposed to say anything at all.

tati
12-06-2006, 01:41 PM
1st - I interpreted the "Im sorry" the same way as Jinger. It was a im sorry I can't help you thing

2nd - I am almost 100% certain that the conversation about the cough happened between Claire and her adopted mom. She was telling her that when she was little that she was sick and when she gave her a wierd look her mom said it was just a cough as if she wasn't supposed to say anything at all.

I think you're right, minda07 & Clumbsyboy, about the conversation b/w Claire & her adopted mom. Claire asked her what she was like when she was little & Mom clearly mentioned a cough. I think you guys are onto something, I had forgotten all about that!

re) Claire's 'I'm sorry'---I too thot that it was an 'I'm sorry that I cant do anything to help you.' as well.

J-Unit
12-06-2006, 01:47 PM
In episode 6 after she "met" her Bio parents Clair was talking to her adopted mother she mention she had condition with here DNA some disease she describe as a Cough. Isn't the same reaction that Peter is having right now?

oooh. good catch. for those of you who don't remember, Claire's adoptive mother talked about how hard they looked for a cure for claire when she was a baby. Her mom said it was nothing, just a cough. Then again, maybe it was the memory that The Eraser put in there that she was thinking of.

HoneyBunny
12-06-2006, 02:46 PM
oooh. good catch. for those of you who don't remember, Claire's adoptive mother talked about how hard they looked for a cure for claire when she was a baby. Her mom said it was nothing, just a cough. Then again, maybe it was the memory that The Eraser put in there that she was thinking of.


Wait -- up till now I was thinking that the EraserMan could only erase. But if he can erase and implant new memories that would really be a mind-fuck. Kinda Total Recall-ish.
And when Claire and AdoptMom were talking about the cough she had when she was young it was because AdoptMom said that they had looked for Claire's BioParents at that time thinking that they might need them. The AdoptMom seemed surprised that HRG had found them so easily this time when he hadn't back then.


I am so going to watch this episode again when I get home.


hb

IJustWatch
12-06-2006, 05:51 PM
I wonder what cheerleading event Claire had to leave to fly to NY. I thought it was kind of odd that she was still in uniform while running towards Peter... but I guess that's just because no one would know who she was if she wasn't wearing it. That or she doesn't have any other clothes.

I seriously cracked up when Eden yelled, "And the Haitian would agree with me if he could talk!" The Haitian is very strong.. I wonder if he's going to disobey marching orders and go against HRG..

ClumsyBoy
12-06-2006, 08:36 PM
oooh. good catch. for those of you who don't remember, Claire's adoptive mother talked about how hard they looked for a cure for Claire when she was a baby. Her mom said it was nothing, just a cough. Then again, maybe it was the memory that The Eraser put in there that she was thinking of.

i don't know but i think that she is faking it too. how is the Eraser/Haitian has miss those spots when he has being erasing her mind too much seems to me that he has made the same kind of deal that he propose to Claire.

Jinger
12-07-2006, 06:26 AM
oooh. good catch. for those of you who don't remember, Claire's adoptive mother talked about how hard they looked for a cure for claire when she was a baby. Her mom said it was nothing, just a cough. Then again, maybe it was the memory that The Eraser put in there that she was thinking of.

Her mom told her that they thought it was something chromosomal but that it ended up just being a cold.

Tabby Lavalamp
12-07-2006, 03:46 PM
This is going to be tough, waiting for new episodes...

HoneyBunny
12-07-2006, 06:56 PM
This is going to be tough, waiting for new episodes...


I have already talked to everyone I know about it and even some people who don't watch the show...and it's only been 4 days.
:(


hb

IJustWatch
12-07-2006, 09:48 PM
This is going to be tough, waiting for new episodes...

But we're going to get through it together...right? RIGHT? I didn't know the forums were going to serve as a form of therapy too.

Hi, I'm IJustWatch, and I'm addicted to Heroes.

"Hi, IJustWatch."

ClumsyBoy
12-08-2006, 02:28 AM
But we're going to get through it together...right? RIGHT? I didn't know the forums were going to serve as a form of therapy too.

Hi, I'm IJustWatch, and I'm addicted to Heroes.

"Hi, IJustWatch."

Hi I'm Clumsyboy I'm a heroes Addict too.... :tonguewag:

Ms. Tumnus
12-08-2006, 07:01 AM
I for one plan on drowning my sorrows and filling the gaping void in my life left by Lost, Heroes and soon the Amazine Race with all things chocolate.

Likely not the BEST of plans, as I am hoping to head south in little less than two months and I'd like to fit in my bathing suits.

So, TV could be my weight loss plan.

Here's to hoping I get Lost season 2 for Christmas...

twnpeeks
12-08-2006, 10:07 AM
Welcome to HA!

My name is Twnpeeks (My fellow addicts call me Twnny!) and I am a Heroes Addict...... *sniff*.....please pass the punch....:drool:


Love that!....Good Call there IJW!....:)

J you GOTTA use that in your recap!....:p

Karo
12-08-2006, 10:27 AM
You realize this makes you all heroholics.

may1
12-08-2006, 10:52 AM
Do we get to drink at these meetings?

twnpeeks
12-08-2006, 11:26 AM
only 'Punch n Pie' will be served......

twnpeeks
12-08-2006, 11:28 AM
Hey....
Try to say HEROHOLICS 10 times reeeally reeeeelly fast!.....OUTLOUD!

basia.mille
12-12-2006, 11:24 AM
Pretty major revelation about what happened after Eden was killed ... I'd be shocked if it turns out to be canon, because it essentially resolves the cliffhanger. Also, doesn't this one kind of contradict Eden's earlier comic (I didn't go back and read it to check!).

Which one are you guys talking about? None of the comics seem to be revealing anything to me... What number is it?

edit: Nevermind. I see now.

Wayne
12-26-2006, 01:22 PM
I love this show, just finally caught up with it and watched this episode today.

Pity it doesn't start over here until February, im already recommending it to friends and they can't wait.