2/26 - Company Man

[t-bag]

Apparently the episode airs early in Canada, because it has already turned up online in several places. I thought about downloading it - and actually did, halfway - but I canceled it so I could watch it tonight on TV, rather than on my stupid computer. Plus I don't want it to distract me from studying right now. I'll take a break when it comes on.

So, why have our Canadian members been keeping this little secret from us? You guys have been enjoying Heroes 24 hours before we get to? Shame on you for not sharing.

The good news is someone left a comment attached to the download and it was, "THIS EPISODE IS AWEEEEESOME!!1" So look forward to an AWEEEEESOME!!1 episode tonight.

[photochild]

The good news is someone left a comment attached to the download and it was, "THIS EPISODE IS AWEEEEESOME!!1" So look forward to an AWEEEEESOME!!1 episode tonight.

I always love when the exclaimation point turns to a one when the person typing stopped shifting before they stop oneing. Makes me even more excited. And I like that awesome has a big WEEEEE in the middle of it.

[may1]

Now t-bag, if someone knocks on your door tonight....don't answer it!!!

[Karo]

Plus I don't want it to distract me from studying right now. I'll take a break when it comes on.

So, posting on TVgasm is now considered studying?

[Wayne]

I think this was the first episode to air in Canada before the US.

And i agree with the comment, this episode is AWEEEEESOME!!1.

Probably the best episode of the season so far.

[t-bag]

Wayne, you tease. But seriously, don't say a word more. Less than an hour.

Phopho, I love that, too. They're far too excited to care about the differences between exclamation marks and ones!

May, There's no way that door is opening. The problem tonight is that my roommate's dumb-as-a-rock girlfriend is over, and she's never seen the show. So she'll ask questions non-fucking-stop. She even does it when she's seen all the episodes up until the newest one. Like during Lost, when the sheriff said to Jack, "Do you know what your tattoo stands for?", she honestly asked us, "What does his tattoo stand for?" Luckily for her, I don't give a shit about Lost anymore. But if she opens her ugly mouth during Heroes, I'll kill her.

And Karo: Yes. Yes it is.

[Ellsbells]

This morning, the guy who played HRG was on the radio giving an interview. I thought it was hilarious when he refered to his character as...




HRG! How cool is that? :thumbup:

[Ellsbells]

All I have to say is - every last minute of this show was AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dumbanddumber]

OMFG!!!!!!!!! :w00t:

[Ellsbells]

OMFG!!!!!!!!! :w00t:

That's what I said!!! Even the first 5 minutes I was saying those exact words. I may have even made that face, too!

[t-bag]

Wow.

I'm so glad HRG is good.

Wow.

[Ellsbells]

Wow.

I'm so glad HRG is good.

Wow.

You and me both. I wasn't sure what way he was going toward in the beginning of the episode. Read-your-mind-Matt is awesome, too.

How cool did Claire look at the end coming out of the house?

[Pekmboyd]

Praise the Lord this is the one week I watched Heroes live and not Tivo'd. What a FREAKING awesome show.

[dumbanddumber]

I'm still speechless ... that was incredible, the best single hour of TV I've seen since 'Walkabout' in Lost's first year.

[jampony]

Sonofamotherbitchfuck! That was amazing, huh? Best episode yet.

The coolest part? Finding out Claire has Super Hair! Seriously, her face melts off (awesome fx, btw) but not only does her hair not burn, it keeps its bouncy curls. Claire, honey, can you post in the girlie thread and let me know what product you use? Thanks!

PS: Note to Lost... that's how it's done, assholes.

[Ellsbells]

How crazy was his back story when he actually got Claire? I was freaking out!

[dumbanddumber]

PS: Note to Lost... that's how it's done, assholes.

My thoughts exactly. So much answered, so many new directions opened.

And Jaysus Christ, her fracking face melted off when she was walking over to inject him!!!!!

[twnpeeks]

Apparently the episode airs early in Canada, because it has already turned up online in several places. I thought about downloading it - and actually did, halfway - but I canceled it so I could watch it tonight on TV, rather than on my stupid computer. Plus I don't want it to distract me from studying right now. I'll take a break when it comes on.

So, why have our Canadian members been keeping this little secret from us? You guys have been enjoying Heroes 24 hours before we get to? Shame on you for not sharing.

The good news is someone left a comment attached to the download and it was, "THIS EPISODE IS AWEEEEESOME!!1" So look forward to an AWEEEEESOME!!1 episode tonight.

So sorry T-Bag,,,,,thought u yanks get EVERYTHING first!....
just kidding. Honestly,,,i didn't know. BUT IT WAS AWEEEESOME!!!!

[dumbanddumber]

BUT IT WAS AWEEEESOME!!!!

You mean AWEEEESOME!!!!1 lol

[lbs30]

Sonofamotherbitchfuck! That was amazing, huh? Best episode yet.

PS: Note to Lost... that's how it's done, assholes.

Ditto. I love Lost, but seriously ditto.

My thoughts exactly. So much answered, so many new directions opened.

SPOILER ALERT:WEST COAST







So Hiro's daddy has been in on this since the beginning. Is Hiro really his son, or what?

Still, WOW!

[twnpeeks]

You mean AWEEEESOME!!!!1 lol

aHEM.....

That's what i said.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned lil wee hiro?....

[Keoni]

I'll bet good money that Peter's dad was in on it to, with Hiro's dad.

[twnpeeks]

I'll bet good money that Peter's dad was in on it to, with Hiro's dad.

Ahhhh very keen of you Keoni-san!!!!

[t-bag]

Amen, Jampony. Lost just got put to shame so terribly. And we didn't even need a, "Questions will be answered," preview.

Next week looks awesome. Simone's back? Hopefully someone shoots her again. (Plus a trailer for Spiderman 3? Whatever, I'll take it. More superhero awesomeness.)

But why think about next week when this week kicked ass so much? Things I loved:

That half the show's dialogue was in Matt's head.
Lyle attacking Ted. Stupid kid.
The camera zooming in on Mr. Muggles and then his painting.
Claire talking to her dad with a mouthful of blood.
Claire's face melting off, and then regrowing.
Mrs. Bennett becoming a born-again-Christian all of the sudden.
Eric Roberts. When did he get so old?
Mini-Hiro and -Claire. Hopefully they have a cartoon spinoff: Baby Heroes.
The fact that the Hero hunters are paired with Heroes.
That Hannah-what's-her-face is paired with Eric Roberts.
The trying-on-the-glasses flashback.
That they got me to think for a couple seconds that HRG was actually letting them kill him.
The thought of the Haitian and Claire living in a secluded cabin together. And him going out and gathering food to return to the cabin, where she's in the kitchen wearing an apron, caring for their three children. I'm 95% positive this is the direction in which the show is heading.
I could go on and on. A perfect episode. Well, near perfect. And on that note...

Things I didn't love:
That Claire's skin melted off, but not her bra.

[Ellsbells]

Things I didn't love:
That Claire's skin melted off, but not her bra.

I was thinking the same thing - how did everything else get burned, but not all of her clothes? It's like the Incredible Hulk syndrome.

[dumbanddumber]

Everything you said is right on t-bad, including the hope that Simone gets shot again. I think I smell a dream sequence.

Was that Hannah Blackberry working with Eric Roberts, or someone different? And Parkman is gonna be HRGs new partner, I guess? Very cool...

[dumbanddumber]

I was thinking the same thing - how did everything else get burned, but not all of her clothes? It's like the Incredible Hulk syndrome.


Actually the clothes would get melted into the skin, if they're polyester or some similar fabric ... not exactly a pretty picture for ClaireBear.

[jampony]

Mrs. Bennett becoming a born-again-Christian all of the sudden.
Huh? What'd I miss?

That Hannah-what's-her-face is paired with Eric Roberts.
That wasn't Hanna (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065664/), that was a new chick (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1335291/) who's joining the cast. I remember reading about her character months ago, but I can't remember what her power is. It's either the same as someone else on the show, but ramped up a lot, or it's some sexual power. Or was that on Doctor Who? I'm getting all confused!

[t-bag]

Huh? What'd I miss?


That wasn't Hanna (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065664/), that was a new chick (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1335291/) who's joining the cast. I remember reading about her character months ago, but I can't remember what her power is. It's either the same as someone else on the show, but ramped up a lot, or it's some sexual power. Or was that on Doctor Who? I'm getting all confused!

You don't remember when Mrs. Bennett went all religious? After she saw Claire heal, all she could talk about was God this and God that. Maybe I was the one who missed something. Has she been this religious all along? I didn't think she was, so it was surprising to hear her talk about God so much.

And as for Hanna/not-Hanna: whatever. I see a sexy brunette and then I see another one, I'm bound to think they're the same person. I think it is a sexual power: the ability to give me an erection!

[dumbanddumber]

And as for Hanna/not-Hanna: whatever. I see a sexy brunette and then I see another one, I'm bound to think they're the same person. I think it is a sexual power: the ability to give me an erection!

Yeah, I know a lot of women with that power too!

[Keoni]

Now "they" are going to want Parkman's unborn child, same as with Claire true mother and how baby Claire was given to HRG. Parkman is the new HRG, he will do whetever it takes to protect his family.

And I guess Simone's father was also in with the "they". Isn't that his balcony or the balcony of the building he lived in? The one with the invisible man's pigeons and Issacs end of world paintings.

So "they" are all wealthy business men from all over the world. I wonder if Mohinder's father had ties to them. And I wonder if Mohinder's sister is truly dead or taken by "they" or vanished like Claire.

[twnpeeks]

Did you guys get previews of next week?.....All we got was credits....Damnation anyways!

Love the part of claire spitting out bullets.....very, uh..charming.....

And even though i'm a chick....i too wondered how come the undies didn't melt off....not that i swing that way....but just wondering....y'know...curious like....

i'm gonna go now.

[Ellsbells]

I loved that Hiro and Claire basically "met" when they were little.

So now we have to wonder, a few episodes back when Hiro's dad was on and wanted Hiro to work for him - take over the family business - is the business a cover-up like HRGs?

[t-bag]

I would imagine all the businesses would be. And it looks like our league villains is being set up, which is awesome. The fact that they have people with powers on their side is even more awesome.

I'm just going to throw this out there: seeing Claire as a fourteen-year-old made her even more attractive. And she was even hot as a baby!

[chooch850]

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!1...... I totally agree you guys. I'm on a huge HERO high right now. I hafta watch it again and absorb everything... then I'll comment more.

Now THAT'S the way to show a flashback !!!!!1

[dumbanddumber]

They did a great job casting the young Heroes too ... Lil Hiro and Lil Haitian looked just like their adult selves. I'm with chooch, and still on a big-time Heroes high. I think Lost just got left in the dust...

[IJustWatch]

Littol Hiro playing Gameboy! I love it!

[Tabby Lavalamp]

Holy friggin' crap, now that's television!

I really hope that as the series goes on we get a few more focused episodes like this if they keep them up to this standard.

Now to rain on the HRG parade a little, he's still not a "good" guy. Towards his family? Yes, definitely. But he's still a part of that organization and has likely murdered people in addition to kidnapping them.

[Carawatches2muchTV]

Wow. Just Wow.
I just finished re-watching on TiVo. Love. This. Show.
I wish I wish I wish I could convert my husband - eh, cest le vie - his loss. He thinks baseball is interesting, so what does he know??
I loved the flashbacks - all of my own personal flashbacks are sepia-toned as well. I thought it was just me?
Well done!!!!!!!1 ( I couldn't resist)

[Carawatches2muchTV]

Oh yeah...and what's with the "Bridge O' Death"? Scratch that - "Bridge O' Fake-Your-Death"...Scratch that - "Bridge O' Be-Left-for-Dead"...or..."Bridge O' Fake-Your-Be-Left-For-Dead-Death"???
This bridge got a lot of air-time - I'm just saying...not complaining...it's a lovely bridge, very scenic...but just a co-winky-dink that HRG chose this location? I think not.

[Firecat]

That's what I said!!! Even the first 5 minutes I was saying those exact words. I may have even made that face, too!

OMG...I swear, after the first 5 minutes I was thinking that this was the greatest thing ever.

Best hour of television ever.

Was Hiro's dad living in that rooftop apartment? Or is there still some link to Simone's dad?

There is so much to talk about. I'm so glad they are giving us so much story and filling in so many details....keeping the audience in suspense is so overrated.

I'm in awe....

Expecting a 20 page recap on this one J-Unit.

Great job my sweet Hayden.....

[dumbanddumber]

My head is still spinning from last night. I love the way that they opened up so many new directions for the show to go. Some of my new questions...

1) So we know that Hiro's dad is a bigshot in The Company. Someone suggested Peter and Nathan's dad, too ... that sounds right. And that scene was on 'that rooftop'; didn't Simone's father own that building? Is he involved too? I bet Linderman is as well.

2) We still don't know exactly what it is that The Company does. We know that they track down Heroes, study them, and track them ... why? What's the ultimate goal? Is it a covert government group? With Sulu being such a bigwig, it seems like some sort of international organization. Is there any government involvement at all, or is it some rich evil corporation?

3) Is Matt going to be HRGs new partner?

4) Claire and the Haitian on the run together?

5) What exactly is HRG going to be like from now on? He told the Haitian to 'dig deep' so that they couldn't use his memories to find Claire or incriminate him in any way. Is he going to remember that she has powers? Is he going to remember her at all? Is his personality going to be affected?

6) Is Claire's family in danger now that the Haitian isn't around to remove their memories of what happened?

Wow, wow, wow...

[Lyndsay]

There is literally too much to talk about. So many new questions. Such a great episode!!!!

Regarding The Company, my husband's theory is that it's like SHIELD from Marvel. Is anyone else familiar with that?

[minda07]

Greatest hour of television ever! There was so much going on and the filled us in on a bunch. Little Hiro was just as cute. I gasped when I saw Hiro's dad on the roof top at first. Eric Roberts is looking old.

Clair has the best power - perfect hair in any condition. Fire going on, nuclear man burning, running away from a serial killer, it all stays very perfect. I want that power!

Matt is getting very involved in the plot now. At first I thought he was going to be one of those throw away characters, but I really enjoy him sans the wifey. Can she die in child birth, please.

I am glad Ted is dead because i couldn't get passed the whole GEICO caveman look and it always took me out of the moment when he was on screen.

What happened to wireless chick - wasn't she supposed to go with them to HRG's. Did I miss something?

The hatian is way cool and I love how everyone thinks that he is mute, it works well for him.

This really was an awesome show!!!!!!!!!!1

[Ms. Tumnus]

Apparently the episode airs early in Canada, because it has already turned up online in several places. I thought about downloading it - and actually did, halfway - but I canceled it so I could watch it tonight on TV, rather than on my stupid computer. Plus I don't want it to distract me from studying right now. I'll take a break when it comes on.

So, why have our Canadian members been keeping this little secret from us? You guys have been enjoying Heroes 24 hours before we get to? Shame on you for not sharing.

The good news is someone left a comment attached to the download and it was, "THIS EPISODE IS AWEEEEESOME!!1" So look forward to an AWEEEEESOME!!1 episode tonight.

The freaking TV schedule here has been totally fucked up. Our networks pick shows from your networks and jump from one to the other, so American Idol, Lost, Amazing Race and the Oscars are all on one channel here (CTV), and Survivor, 24, Heroes, and the Office are on another (Global) so Amazing Race was bumped for the Oscars on Sunday, and it aired last night. The O.C. didn’t air on Thursday, it aired on Saturday, and Heroes was on on Sunday. Of course I didn’t look into any of this. Luckily, I was able to catch Heroes on NBC last night.

Sonofamotherbitchfuck! That was amazing, huh? Best episode yet.

The coolest part? Finding out Claire has Super Hair! Seriously, her face melts off (awesome fx, btw) but not only does her hair not burn, it keeps its bouncy curls. Claire, honey, can you post in the girlie thread and let me know what product you use? Thanks!


I KNOW!!!!!!!!1 (this isn’t going to get old anytime soon). She’d have been bald in a minute.

So sorry T-Bag,,,,,thought u yanks get EVERYTHING first!....
just kidding. Honestly,,,i didn't know. BUT IT WAS AWEEEESOME!!!!

Hey, another Canuck. Where are you Twnpeeks?

You don't remember when Mrs. Bennett went all religious? After she saw Claire heal, all she could talk about was God this and God that. Maybe I was the one who missed something. Has she been this religious all along? I didn't think she was, so it was surprising to hear her talk about God so much.

And as for Hanna/not-Hanna: whatever. I see a sexy brunette and then I see another one, I'm bound to think they're the same person. I think it is a sexual power: the ability to give me an erection!

Isn’t Eric of the Nipple Rings a brunette?

Now "they" are going to want Parkman's unborn child, same as with Claire true mother and how baby Claire was given to HRG. Parkman is the new HRG, he will do whetever it takes to protect his family.

And I guess Simone's father was also in with the "they". Isn't that his balcony or the balcony of the building he lived in? The one with the invisible man's pigeons and Issacs end of world paintings.

So "they" are all wealthy business men from all over the world. I wonder if Mohinder's father had ties to them. And I wonder if Mohinder's sister is truly dead or taken by "they" or vanished like Claire.

Keoni, you’re too freaking smart. I’m too busy trying to piece back together my blown mind and you’re coming up with brilliant stuff like this.

Colour me impressed. I hope you don’t mind if I steal your theories and try to sell them as my own to my friends.

[dumbanddumber]

And I guess Simone's father was also in with the "they". Isn't that his balcony or the balcony of the building he lived in? The one with the invisible man's pigeons and Issacs end of world paintings.

Whoops, missed that Keoni had already noticed that earlier!

[Keoni]

Any guesses as to who Claude was hiding?

And when Niki's dad offered her a whole lot of money, do you think he was a "company man" too? I really want a Jessica (Jessica is the badass one right?) backstory.

[Keoni]

There is literally too much to talk about. So many new questions. Such a great episode!!!!

Regarding The Company, my husband's theory is that it's like SHIELD from Marvel. Is anyone else familiar with that?

But I don't think the company men work for any government, they might be more like the Hellfire Club from old school X-Men. Maybe?

[Carawatches2muchTV]

What's the young-Haitian's necklace/Jessica's tattoo connection? Any theories?

[ScotyUtah]

I loved it when HRG told Parkman to "do what I think." What an awesome episode!! Keep the theories coming. Lot's of extremely attentive watchers here.

[photochild]

Best show EVAAAA!!!!!!!!!!11
LOL. Most of you have said what I wanted to say, and I hate being that repeating chick. But DAMN, that was an amazing hour of television. Afterwards we sat there kinda speechless and then started talking all excited. And the special effects on this show, amazing what they do on TV now. We were talking about how TV is better than so many movies now because they can do the big budget stuff AND do good character development. This show is proof of that.

Sonofamotherbitchfuck! That was amazing, huh? Best episode yet.

The coolest part? Finding out Claire has Super Hair! Seriously, her face melts off (awesome fx, btw) but not only does her hair not burn, it keeps its bouncy curls. Claire, honey, can you post in the girlie thread and let me know what product you use? Thanks!

PS: Note to Lost... that's how it's done, assholes.

Yeah, I noticed her hair too. I want that hair!

And Lost, sorry.


They did a great job casting the young Heroes too ... Lil Hiro and Lil Haitian looked just like their adult selves. I'm with chooch, and still on a big-time Heroes high. I think Lost just got left in the dust...

I loved the little versions. They were perfectly cast.

And once again, word on the Lost.

[dumbanddumber]

Any guesses as to who Claude was hiding?

And when Niki's dad offered her a whole lot of money, do you think he was a "company man" too?

Ooh, I had forgotten that Claude was hiding someone. If you like the idea that Petrelli Sr. is a Company man, maybe Claude is helping him out by hiding Nathan & Peter? Although, as far as we know, they didn't start to show their powers until around the time that the series started. Maybe Claire's mom? She had to have some help escaping and making it seem like she's dead.

Nice thought on Niki's dad too.

SHIELD is like an international police force, right? Maybe...

[silentfire]

Im soooo glad that everyone recognized the episodes awesomeness. That was definitely a tvgasmic hour. I loved how the entire episode was based on HRG vs Matt and Ted and they didn't do a cut to one of the other characters or some other story with no connection to it. I felt so bad for Lost after this episode, we got answers, the story moved along, we got new stories and questions. It was amaziiiing.

Anyway, I too wonder who Claude was hiding, it seems like it was someone important to him, but he doesn't have any connection with that person now since he never mentions it when he was with Peter.

I loved the part where Matt tries to read HRG's mind but HRG thinks in JAPANESE! I never would have thought of that and it was very clever imo to avoid Matt's power.

When Claire walked out of the house and her face was deformed/burned and then it started to heal. I thought that shot was brilliant and a I know I had my mouth open.

I wonder how they are going to "fix" the problem of the neighbors who saw claire heal herself. Need to have some Men in Black type machine to erase minds since the Eraser is gone.

What was also great about this episode is that after it ends and you start having thoughts run through your mind about the show and then they show the preview for the next episode.....SIMONE ALIVE WTFFFFF! Great teaser too!

I hated the fact that the black donnellys started off without commercials for half hour, me and my cousin couldn't discuss heroes!

Anyway my cousin came up with a theory that perhaps the new assistant to the organization is a shapeshifter, which could explain why we see Simone again, but Im still iffy on that theory.

Oh yeah, I was kinda bummed that HRG doesn't have any powers. But at least he is pretty clever and now that he could be teamed up with Matt it will make for an interesting duo.

Finally, despite the entire greatness of the show, I thought it was stupid/dumb that Hannah was not with Ted and Matt despite the fact that they are working together! The entire episode I was waiting for Hannah to show up since she was the one who originally thought of the idea? I hope they have a good reason for it.

[dumbanddumber]

Finally, despite the entire greatness of the show, I thought it was stupid/dumb that Hannah was not with Ted and Matt despite the fact that they are working together! The entire episode I was waiting for Hannah to show up since she was the one who originally thought of the idea? I hope they have a good reason for it.


She might have been more there to set things in motion. Also, in the online graphic novels, she has a history where she worked for The Company (and closely with HRG), got captured by the baddies, then they abandoned her and she escaped on her own. So she probably didn't want to risk being spotted because they might not even know that she's alive.

[Keoni]

I loved the part where Matt tries to read HRG's mind but HRG thinks in JAPANESE! I never would have thought of that and it was very clever imo to avoid Matt's power....What was also great about this episode is that after it ends and you start having thoughts run through your mind about the show and then they show the preview for the next episode.....SIMONE ALIVE WTFFFFF! Great teaser too!...Anyway my cousin came up with a theory that perhaps the new assistant to the organization is a shapeshifter, which could explain why we see Simone again, but Im still iffy on that theory.

The shapeshifter idea is great - she could assume Claire's form and fool the mother and brother!!!
And HRG not having powers but knowing Japanese, maybe that's his power - languages?

[HoneyBunny]

I am starting a Jack Coleman (HRG) fan club. Everytime he is on the screen I am mesmerized. He makes HRG one of the best characters on tv. I have bunnylove for him.


OK - the show....was that not like a freaking "E" ticket ride?! The black and white flashbacks ala film noir was awesome.

Little Hiro and Sulu Dad on the (now famous) rooftop giving Claire Bear to HRG.
Little Haitain erasing Momma Bennet the 'first' time.
Claude hiding one of his own...could that have been Bio Claire Mom??
Best line of the night was Rad Ted "I am not gonna nuke the dog."


hb

[Karo]

So, is radioactive guy really dead? Everyone seems to be assuming he is, but he wasn't dying from that gunshot very quickly and he had to be tranquilized by Clair to be stopped. I hope he is dead but I didn't think the show made it clear. Am I alone in this?

[pearlblackdragon]

Radioactive Man - Are we sure he is dead? Wasn't he the first guy we saw in the Primatech Paper holding room? After that we saw Parkman...am I wrong???

[Keoni]

So, is radioactive guy really dead? Everyone seems to be assuming he is, but he wasn't dying from that gunshot very quickly and he had to be tranquilized by Clair to be stopped. I hope he is dead but I didn't think the show made it clear. Am I alone in this?

Maybe he'll be used as a weapon by the company, or a small group of heroes will break him free and escape to NY - hence Peter's dream of going nuclear. I don't think he's dead, but I bet he will be dead or depowered by the end of the season.

[Ms. Tumnus]

He's not dead yet. ERic roberts said that they'd do some tests, then kill him.

I hope they recruit Parkman. That job would be right up his alley, and he and HRG could stir up some shit within.

Why couldn't the Haitian erase Eric Roberts' memory of Claire? wouldn't that be simpler than the shooting, fake escape, and HRG erasure route?

[PaulieWalnutz]

What's the young-Haitian's necklace/Jessica's tattoo connection? Any theories?

I don't know whether anyone got to this, but....

The symbol (sorry for the long post, but some might find it interesting)

The symbolThe symbol appears most frequently throughout the series. In episode 12 ("Godsend") the symbol, as appears on the sword hilt, is revealed by Ando Masahashi to be a combination of two Japanese characters: 才 (sai) meaning "great talent" and 与 (yo) meaning "Godsend". Appearances include

As a decorative object in the Bennets' home.

In a swimming pool at the scene of one of Sylar's murders.

Several flotation devices form the shape. (ep. 102, when Matt is next to the swimming pool, before being questioned by the FBI women)

On a billboard behind Hiro when he teleports at Times Square.

On a drawing done by Peter Petrelli.

On various paintings by Isaac Mendez.

On a post-it note on the map in Mohinder Suresh's apartment.

A pattern in the algorithm of a program in Chandra Suresh's laptop computer.

Written on a geometry textbook owned by Claire Bennet.

Written on pictures in Sylar's apartment.

On Jessica's back whenever she surfaces as Niki's alternate personality.
When Jessica is repressed, the symbol does not appear on Niki's back.

On the hilt of a katana once owned by 16th-century samurai Takezo Kensei, possibly the earliest known manifestation of the symbol.

This katana is held by future Hiro and sought by present Hiro. The symbol also appears on the replica of the sword, which was stolen from the museum by Hiro.

Printed on the front of Chandra Suresh's book, Activating Evolution.

Printed on the upper-left corner of the 14th issue of 9th Wonders! comic book, written by Isaac Mendez.

On a necklace worn by the Haitian.

On a picture of Niki as "Jessica", painted by Isaac. The symbol was hidden under an extra layer of paint. (Later on, Jessica hides the symbol under a layer of foundation.)

Drawn on a Greyhound bus sign, seen right before D.L. spots the runaway Micah in the episode "Homecoming".

The branch in the tank of Chandra's lizard.

Formed by shards of broken glass on the hallway floor when Sylar attacks Mrs. Bennet.

Seen in the form of an ice sculpture as a dolphin in the kitchen of a Las Vegas casino.

On the poker chips from Linderman's casino.

On the "About Us" page at Primatech Paper Company's website as part of the Heroes 360 experience.

On the sign behind Hiro and Ando when Hiro tells Ando to go home in Unexpected

In the sand where Nikki buries the bodies of the men that she (Jessica) killed.

BTW I am not that much of a Heroe's dork. I got the info from Wiki.

[dumbanddumber]

I don't think he's dead, but I bet he will be dead or depowered by the end of the season.

He was definitely alive at the end of the episode, Eric Roberts said that he's sedated. But I agree that he'll be gone by season's end. He's nuts and has the strongest power we've seen by far, at least in terms of destructive potential. Too much of a wildcard to have running around.

Why couldn't the Haitian erase Eric Roberts' memory of Claire? wouldn't that be simpler than the shooting, fake escape, and HRG erasure route?

Well, we don't know who Eric Roberts notified (he's not 'the big boss') about Claire. Also, I think that HRG finally realized that he couldn't control things and keep her safe forever. Even if they were able to cover up this episode, it's likely that they would find out about her eventually.

[Carawatches2muchTV]

I don't know whether anyone got to this, but....

The symbol (sorry for the long post, but some might find it interesting)

The symbol appears most frequently throughout the series...

Holy Subliminals, Batman! I had no idea it was so pervasive... Now I have to go back through all the episodes stored in my TiVo... *sigh*, I remember when I used to have a life...

Thanks for the info, Paulie!

[may1]

Why couldn't the Haitian erase Eric Roberts' memory of Claire? wouldn't that be simpler than the shooting, fake escape, and HRG erasure route?

You are so smart, Ms. T.

This episode was so freaking awesome. I was left speechless. Everyone has pretty much said what I was thinking, so I won't repeat.
I love the theory about Matt's child potentially being a target. If that is in fact his baby.
Eric Roberts looks horrible. In both the flashback and current.

Someone please send a dvd of this episode to the folks at Lost. Today.

[Firecat]

Haitian guy said something about taking orders from someone else, what was that about?

[may1]

Haitian guy said something about taking orders from someone else, what was that about?

Linderman perhaps?
Or, Eric Roberts (don't know his character name).

[silentfire]

Haitian guy said something about taking orders from someone else, what was that about?

I think it's because his orders were to protect claire since they expected that she would gain powers and that original order supersedes the order that HRG gave to erase claire's mind, which in his mind would put claire in more danger.

What I also forgot to mention was whether Hiro's dad is higher up in command than Eric Roberts. Because during HRG and Hiro's dad exchange, he basically forced the child onto HRG. I also wonder if Hiro's dad knows of his power, or else why would he bring his son up to the roof to meet with his conspirators.

[Keoni]

Currently, at this moment in the story, are almost all the heroes converging on Las Vegas?

[minda07]

I believe so, but wouldn't it make more sense to have them heading to new york?

[dumbanddumber]

I did think of one thing that I didn't like about last night's ep ... the damn narrator was back at the beginning!!!1 WTF?????

[Chimera]

Simone isn't alive. When "Simone" was talking to Isaac, her body was in the background. Also, when Isaac backs away in alarm, the man behind him is HRG. I'm betting "Simone" is actually the new girl from the lab.

[jampony]

Huh? What'd I miss?


That wasn't Hanna (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065664/), that was a new chick (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1335291/) who's joining the cast. I remember reading about her character months ago, but I can't remember what her power is. It's either the same as someone else on the show, but ramped up a lot, or it's some sexual power. Or was that on Doctor Who? I'm getting all confused!

Totally quoting myself, but who cares... here's (http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=800006535) a spoiler about New Chick's powers.

[supermarketgirl]

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!1 So AWESOME!

I, too, am wondering who the Haitian was getting orders from...someone from Claire’s past...I was a little confused about this.

So you like brunettes t-bag? Funny you should mention that... ;)

[braunie]

Here's what went through my head-is HRG a good guy with bad intentions, or a bad guy with good intentions? This show was fantastic-just got done watching it. Of course, I erased it, also, thinking I had gotten everything out of it the first go round. Now I wish I still had it. I don't remember Haitian saying something about answering to someone else...Linderman, maybe? And let's give some props to Mr. Muggles-he kept his cool with Ted, right? Not many spazzy little dogs could keep it together like that!

[chooch850]

I just rewatched this ep. again. When Matt and HRG went back to the paper factory, HRG confronted the Haitian about being able to speak and who all knew about Clair. The Haitian stated that he, Matt, & HRG were the only ones who knew of Clair's powers. The next scene was at the Bennett home. Here's what I'm getting at..... Who contacted Eric Roberts to come to the house?? After everyone got outside and Clair was in the house with Ted, Eric told HRG that it was a good thing he called. Do you think the plan for the Haitian to take the fall was hatched on the way to the house???? I think I answered my own question, but at the time, they didn't know what was going on at the house. Clair was playing possum when they left.

I found that Matt was pretty cool this ep. He kept it together and didn't get all nerved up, but what'd he do with the diamonds??? Now he's at the paper factory. Someone better call his idiotic wife and tell her he's gonna be late for dinner.

[t-bag]

Wow. Thread just exploded.

I haven't said this before, because I thought it was pretty obvious, so either no one has said it because they think it's really obvious, too, or no one else has thought of it. Which I find strange.

I'm 99% sure the symbol is a segment of DNA. Specifically, the segment that gives people powers. here (http://www.biologycorner.com/resources/mRNA-colored.gif)'s a DNA segment to prove my point. (Okay, technically it's an RNA segment, but an RNA strand is more or less half a DNA strand, and this picture was the best I could find.)

So... I think that's what it is. I think the Japanese symbols that combine to make it are supposed to show something to do with destiny or something. But I prefer the scientific explanation, of course.

[TVqt]

Now he's at the paper factory. Someone better call his idiotic wife and tell her he's gonna be late for dinner.
Amen sistah!!!!!!!!1






Little Hiro was sooo adorable!:wub:
So cute, the way he pushed his glasses up on his face. :blushing:

[Chimera]

Who contacted Eric Roberts to come to the house?? After everyone got outside and Clair was in the house with Ted, Eric told HRG that it was a good thing he called. Do you think the plan for the Haitian to take the fall was hatched on the way to the house???? I think I answered my own question, but at the time, they didn't know what was going on at the house. Clair was playing possum when they left.

It may well be that the plan was hatched after the "group hug" moment on the front lawn, at the first moment that HRG had a chance to communicate with the Haitian without his boss finding out (it just happened off-screen during a moment that didn't need air time). In fact I think we're probably supposed to assume that HRG's wheels started turning the moment he looked up from his family and saw the recruiter looking at him with that smug smile.

[J-Unit]

AAAAAHHHHHH!

Just watched the episode. That was some awesome TV. So exciting, so sad, so everything! I loved the HRG focus because he is clearly the best actor on the series.

Recap should be up by tonight!

[tvaholic]

Did anyone else see in the preview Nathan punching Jessica? Good thing he can fly cuz she can kick his ass big time!

I have to admit the last scene with Claire & HRG on the bridge made me a bit verklempt. I think it's obvious HRG started out as a "company man" but raising Claire made him change his tune. Is it just me or did it look like in the flashback with Claude on the bridge that HRG was holding the gun but didn't really fire the first shot, like something or someone else made it happen? Like there may be another invisible guy or someone with Sylar-like kinetic powers. Cause I don't think HRG wanted to shoot Claude-but on the other hand I was thinking why the hell didn't he make himself invisible when the gun came out?

[Lyndsay]

Simone isn't alive. When "Simone" was talking to Isaac, her body was in the background. Also, when Isaac backs away in alarm, the man behind him is HRG. I'm betting "Simone" is actually the new girl from the lab.

Wow! Good eyes!

[Ms. Tumnus]

Is it just me or did it look like in the flashback with Claude on the bridge that HRG was holding the gun but didn't really fire the first shot, like something or someone else made it happen? Like there may be another invisible guy or someone with Sylar-like kinetic powers. Cause I don't think HRG wanted to shoot Claude-but on the other hand I was thinking why the hell didn't he make himself invisible when the gun came out?

I saw that too. I was sure that there was telekenisis in play there -- maybe from another "agent" who didn,t think that HRG had the cojones to pull the trigger himself.

And I definitely wondered why Claude didn't hide -- maybe he wanted to get shot?

[AngelVenom]

Huh? What'd I miss?


That wasn't Hanna (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1065664/), that was a new chick (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1335291/) who's joining the cast. I remember reading about her character months ago, but I can't remember what her power is. It's either the same as someone else on the show, but ramped up a lot, or it's some sexual power. Or was that on Doctor Who? I'm getting all confused!
Is this the chick that was working with radioactive guy and the cop? cause she can "be" a computer, kinda thing. If it's the chick that was in the locked room with HRG I think she can read minds too.

Any guesses as to who Claude was hiding? Maybe Nikki or her husband, they need to relate them in somewhere.

And when Niki's dad offered her a whole lot of money, do you think he was a "company man" too? I really want a Jessica (Jessica is the badass one right?) backstory.

I think I missed that part about the dad, do we know him already?







Little Hiro was sooo adorable!:wub:
So cute, the way he pushed his glasses up on his face. :blushing:[/QUOTE]

That was my favorite part of the whole show!! I actually did it just like him after. awww im a dork. :blushing:

[twnpeeks]

AAAAAHHHHHH!

Just watched the episode. That was some awesome TV. So exciting, so sad, so everything! I loved the HRG focus because he is clearly the best actor on the series.

Recap should be up by tonight!

YAYYYYYY!!!!!1

[twnpeeks]

Did anyone else see in the preview Nathan punching Jessica? Good thing he can fly cuz she can kick his ass big time!

Seriously, someone HAS to tell me what the preview was about... we didn't get any preview here....damnation anyways!:mad:

[twnpeeks]

I think I missed that part about the dad, do we know him already?

That was my favorite part of the whole show!! I actually did it just like him after. awww im a dork. :blushing:[/QUOTE]

He came in and went early in the show, he met with Micah and gave him a laptop and freaked out when Micah took it apart (to see how it ticks?) Anyways, Nikki freaked and asked him to leave, don't need ya....yada yada yada. And He's gone... Hope that helps.... Oh, apparently, daddy bucks was abusive to Nikki and sister (real) Jessica whent they were lil. I may be wrong but I think he was instrumental in Jessica's death. (I missed that part myself). Ok?

[CrazyTrain]

Here's the preview... hurry before they take it down...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J-ZFGqLTeQg

Is it Monday yet?!?!!

[campfiregirl]

Any guesses on who will play Linderman? From the fraction of a second we saw the back of his head... Donald Sutherland??

[HoneyBunny]

I loved the HRG focus because he is clearly the best actor on the series.

Recap should be up by tonight!
Jack Coleman plays HRG and I am developing a mini-crush on him. (but no one can take your place Jojo).

Can't wait to read your recap and savor the episode all over again. This one was freaking awesome.



hb

[HoneyBunny]

Any guesses on who will play Linderman? From the fraction of a second we saw the back of his head... Donald Sutherland??
What about Malcolm McDowell or Terrance Stamp?



hb

[AngelVenom]

OOOHHHHH! I remember now. Thanks TW.

[chooch850]

I saw that too. I was sure that there was telekenisis in play there -- maybe from another "agent" who didn,t think that HRG had the cojones to pull the trigger himself.

And I definitely wondered why Claude didn't hide -- maybe he wanted to get shot?

My take on that scene was that HRG was shocked that he actually DID pull the trigger the first time. I think he AND Claude didn't think he would do it. That's why Claude didn't disappear, he never expected HRG to really shoot him and once he shot him a second time, he figured he better make himself less of a target to get away.

[nmk01]

What about Malcolm McDowell or Terrance Stamp?



hb

It IS Malcolm McDowell...excellent creepy villain casting. :thumbup1:

[Firecat]

Is it possible that HRG shot him, but didn't try to kill him. Like what happened at the end

[Tabby Lavalamp]

It IS Malcolm McDowell...excellent creepy villain casting. :thumbup1:

A spoiler alert would have been much appreciated there. :(

[Firecat]

Thankfully, I have no idea who Malcolm McDowell is.....

[Ellsbells]

This is him:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000532/

[HoneyBunny]

Thankfully, I have no idea who Malcolm McDowell is.....
Have you never seen "Clockwork Orange"??
If you haven't - Netfix it!




hb

[chooch850]

Is it possible that HRG shot him, but didn't try to kill him. Like what happened at the end

I went back and watched it again and it sure looked like that first shot was an accident or totally unexpected. It hit Claude in the right shoulder. The second shot was intentional, he cocked the gun before he shot him in the left shoulder.... then Claude tried to disappear, HRG yelled that he should have told him who he was hiding. He cocked and shot again as Claude vanished. HRG then fired a 4th shot at thin air...... but I saw no fatal shots.

Malcohm was the bad guy in Star Trek TNG Movie where Kirk is caught in the Nebulas thingy and dies helping Picard defeat Malcohm

[IJustWatch]

Maybe Simone has some sort of 9-lives power.. what if she ends up being Peter's half sister, that would be some shit! Of course, this is based on no factual evidence and purely crafted in my own mind..

[tvaholic]

Maybe Simone has some sort of 9-lives power.. what if she ends up being Peter's half sister, that would be some shit! Of course, this is based on no factual evidence and purely crafted in my own mind..

That would make them the Heros with the power of incest!

Ok, I just watched the scene on the bridge w/HRG & Claude again online (slow day at work). On the one hand, HRG may have shot him suddenly like that on purpose, knowing he'd have to catch Claude off-guard or he'd just disappear. But, on the other hand, he looks startled when the gun goes off & Claude alluded to the fact HRG has done this before so it's not like he's new at this & doesn't know how to handle a gun. As the shot pans out HRG even seems to be looking at the gun like WTF?

But seriously, what is this bridge, like the doorway to the school in the train station for Harry Potter? I mean, if you wanted to shoot someone & not be seen, how about the woods? Or PrimaTech? Why the bridge? Is there a secret portal or maybe a hero lives under it like a troll?

[Firecat]

Ahhh....alright, I know him. I saw clockwork orange a long time ago, don't really remember too much though....

[may1]

Wow. Thread just exploded.

I haven't said this before, because I thought it was pretty obvious, so either no one has said it because they think it's really obvious, too, or no one else has thought of it. Which I find strange.

I'm 99% sure the symbol is a segment of DNA. Specifically, the segment that gives people powers. here (http://www.biologycorner.com/resources/mRNA-colored.gif)'s a DNA segment to prove my point. (Okay, technically it's an RNA segment, but an RNA strand is more or less half a DNA strand, and this picture was the best I could find.)

So... I think that's what it is. I think the Japanese symbols that combine to make it are supposed to show something to do with destiny or something. But I prefer the scientific explanation, of course.

Very cool graphic. Sounds like a good explanation to me. Good catch.


Have you never seen "Clockwork Orange"??
If you haven't - Netfix it.

hb

Oh yeah. Rent this movie!:thumbup:

[jampony]

Is it just me or did it look like in the flashback with Claude on the bridge that HRG was holding the gun but didn't really fire the first shot, like something or someone else made it happen?
I agree. It's just odd. And it reminded me of that time Niki attacked the guard and broke his little billy club and then looked surprised that she did it. Not that it's connected or anything, I'm just rambling...

Is this the chick that was working with radioactive guy and the cop? cause she can "be" a computer, kinda thing. If it's the chick that was in the locked room with HRG I think she can read minds too.
No, two different women. I included links to both in my post if you want to compare them. I still can't figure out what Hanna's part is (computer chick)... if she'll be back or if it was just a way to get radioactive guy and Matt all fired up.

Any guesses on who will play Linderman? From the fraction of a second we saw the back of his head... Donald Sutherland??
What about Malcolm McDowell or Terrance Stamp?

I read about Malcolm McDowell recently and I'm just so excited I can't contain myself. I think he's a perfect choice. But up until recently, did anyone else think Eric Roberts was going to be playing Linderman? I don't why I always had that impression, but it was weird when I found out he wasn't the head honcho that I thought he was.

I haven't said this before, because I thought it was pretty obvious, so either no one has said it because they think it's really obvious, too, or no one else has thought of it. Which I find strange.

I'm 99% sure the symbol is a segment of DNA. Specifically, the segment that gives people powers. here (http://www.biologycorner.com/resources/mRNA-colored.gif)'s a DNA segment to prove my point. (Okay, technically it's an RNA segment, but an RNA strand is more or less half a DNA strand, and this picture was the best I could find.)

So... I think that's what it is. I think the Japanese symbols that combine to make it are supposed to show something to do with destiny or something. But I prefer the scientific explanation, of course.
It has been mentioned before (the DNA stuff), a while ago, but it's good to mention again... it'll refresh our memories. I had already forgotten about the Japanese symbols on the sword thingy.

[t-bag]

Malcolm McDowell?!?!?!1 I have to go change my pants.

[Ms. Tumnus]

Malcolm McDowell?!?!?!1 I have to go change my pants.

Does he have nipple rings???

(OK, I think I'm done with that joke now)

[IJustWatch]

I was watching Bruce Almighty, and HRG definitely has Jim Carrey-esque qualities. I'M IN LOVE WITH HRG! The selection of the glasses was so classic too.. quite funny. Writers, don't mess up!

[Ms. Tumnus]

I just had to post a comment left by a Raggedy Andy in the comments of Jo's last post:

"This episode was so awesome I felt like I understood how crying after an orgasm feels like."

Brilliant.

[may1]

I just had to post a comment left by a Raggedy Andy in the comments of Jo's last post:

"This episode was so awesome I felt like I understood how crying after an orgasm feels like."

Brilliant.

That's too funny.

[nmk01]

A spoiler alert would have been much appreciated there. :(

My bad...sometimes I forget that not all of us visit spoilerfix. Forgive me? :crying:

[Chimera]

My take on that scene was that HRG was shocked that he actually DID pull the trigger the first time. I think he AND Claude didn't think he would do it.

That's my take too. The inherent problem of creating a show where "unreal" events can be taken for granted is that we tend to leap to the improbable when trying to explain an unexpected occurrence. If this had been an episode of ... well, any other show that doesn't involve "supernatural" powers, we would totally have read it as HRG's surprise at what he was capable of, and I really think that's how they intended it.

[HoneyBunny]

My bad...sometimes I forget that not all of us visit spoilerfix. Forgive me? :crying:
When I first started posting here I put the winners of that season's TAR on the Blog page BEFORE b-side put the recap up. I was almost tarred and feathered. A nice guy by the name of Wha Wha came to my rescue.


I miss him ~


hb

[Tabby Lavalamp]

My bad...sometimes I forget that not all of us visit spoilerfix. Forgive me? :crying:
Because it's not a HUGE spoiler, sure. But it's still not going to be as exciting seeing his name in the credits.

[t-bag]

Tim Kring just wants us to be "prepared" for the fact that Volume One of the series ends at the end of this season, and Volume Two picks up next season, with new heroes, new villains, new plots, new everything. He wants us to be ready for a totally different story. It's not all one continuous thing.

I'm sure he'll keep some characters, or have them show up every once in a while or something. But now I fear they might actually have Peter blow up New York. And I'm even more worried that Claire won't be around for Volume Two. Then again: Save the Cheerleader, Save the World. Clearly she's important. And clearly she's hot. But now that Hayden Penietteieieritieieiriee is such a big-shot, what if she decides to leave the show to strike out on a big movie career?! I need to go lie down. Too much anxiety over this.

[Firecat]

I really didn't want to read any of that. Thanks for depressing me.

[chooch850]

NO, why did you tell me that. I"m all upset now. How many episodes are left in this season???

[Pekmboyd]

Tim Kring just wants us to be "prepared" for the fact that Volume One of the series ends at the end of this season, and Volume Two picks up next season, with new heroes, new villains, new plots, new everything. He wants us to be ready for a totally different story. It's not all one continuous thing.

I'm sure he'll keep some characters, or have them show up every once in a while or something. But now I fear they might actually have Peter blow up New York. And I'm even more worried that Claire won't be around for Volume Two. Then again: Save the Cheerleader, Save the World. Clearly she's important. And clearly she's hot. But now that Hayden Penietteieieritieieiriee is such a big-shot, what if she decides to leave the show to strike out on a big movie career?! I need to go lie down. Too much anxiety over this.

I would be surprised if the network let him do that...I can't see NBC saying suuuure Tim, you have one of the only successful shows on our network, I see no reason not to completely change around the characters the fans love.

Hopefully they'll keep HRG/Claire/Eraser, Hiro, and Peter/Nathan/Linderman and just get rid of Nikki/DL/Micah, Mohinder, etc. Kinda like Lost introduced the Tailies and then killed them all off, but still kept the bulk of the original group.

[Ms. Tumnus]

I would be surprised if the network let him do that...I can't see NBC saying suuuure Tim, you have one of the only successful shows on our network, I see no reason not to completely change around the characters the fans love.


I hope they don't change too much. I'd heard that they were sticking to one main story per season, but not the whole new characters thing. That would suck.

And if the actors really think it's they, and not their characters, that are hot shit, they should talk to Shelley Long and David Carusso.

[Firecat]

I'm really pissed. I was on another forum I post and was reading the thread they have on heroes. Anyway, somebody posted a "spoiler" (they hid it though), but I figured it was relating to an episode that has aired already. Anyway, it wasn't, it was for mondays episode that is already out.

Spoiler text isn't good enough in that situation, you have to warn that it's about something that hasn't aired. Right? Sheesh

[jampony]

I'm really pissed. I was on another forum I post and was reading the thread they have on heroes. Anyway, somebody posted a "spoiler" (they hid it though), but I figured it was relating to an episode that has aired already. Anyway, it wasn't, it was for mondays episode that is already out.

Spoiler text isn't good enough in that situation, you have to warn that it's about something that hasn't aired. Right? Sheesh

Sorry that you got spoiled, but I think saying something is a spoiler indicates it's happening in the future or is unknown to the general population. If it happened in the past, it's fair game. At least on these forums, I think that's true. So, what's the spoiler? Just kidding! Don't tell me... I want to be surprised!

[Firecat]

On the other forum it's mostly used to protect people that haven't caught up yet etc.