4/23

[lbs30]

Seriously - still more than 2 weeks away!
Stop showing commercials and 'Deal or No Deal' and at least show repeats.

[may1]

Someone a little anxious?
Man, the previews look awesome.

[Carawatches2muchTV]

Did I see that promo correctly? Did they say that 4/23 would begin the final 5 chapters?? Like...ever!?? As in...it's all over in 5 more episodes?? Somebody say it ain't so!!

[t-bag]

It ain't so. Second season is a go.

[jampony]

Did I see that promo correctly? Did they say that 4/23 would begin the final 5 chapters?? Like...ever!?? As in...it's all over in 5 more episodes?? Somebody say it ain't so!!

But they're rebooting next year, right? All new cast and characters? So it is sort of over.

[Jinger]

Holy crap! I saw the preview commercial they are running finally....holy crap! I am totally geeked out, there was way too much info for me to digest after being cold turkey all these weeks, are they for real giving us all that!?!? My poor brain almost exploded.

I won't say anything about what I saw except to say holy crap once again!!

And is anyone keeping up w/the online comic?! There is a big reveal in this weeks (although it wasn't a big shock to someone that has been reading them).

Can't freaking wait til the 23rd!!!!!

[minda07]

OMR - I have not seen the promo yet!!!! Iwill have to search fro it now online.

[twnpeeks]

Seriously, Monday nights are so dreary now! I've actually had to sit in the same room as my husband and*gasp* TALK!!!1

I miss heroes, my life is too quiet and unexciting with them.... *sniff*.... i'm pathetic...:blush:

[t-bag]

But they're rebooting next year, right? All new cast and characters? So it is sort of over.

I don't think it'll be all new cast and characters, but they say there are going to be some huge changes. Hiro will still be around, though. I believe I saw somewhere Tim Kring says season 2 is going to be very Hiro-centric, as opposed to this season centering mainly around Peter and Claire.

[photochild]

My friends and I resort to watching terrible terrible TV on Mondays. The other option is screaming at each other. It sucks.

[lbs30]

Someone a little anxious?
Man, the previews look awesome.

yes I am.:clap:

11 days left!

[t-bag]

They're making me crazy by saying "Monday in one week". That's like when you get off of work at 5 and someone looks at the clock when it's 4:18 and says, "Only half an hour left!" It just makes time pass slower.

[CrazyTrain]

Yeah 1 week and a few days. That commercial was misleading!!

Some old cast will be back, fo sheezy. Some won't make it through the end of the season!!

Way too long :( :(

[chooch850]

IT'S HERE !!!!!!!1 Tonight's the night... I'm soooo excited. (please be good....)

.....do you think Sylar and Peter have a 'throw down'? Does Clair's grandma have powers? Does Hiro and Ando come back to the present and make some changes?... Do we get to see Mr. Muggles?

....can't wait !!!!!!1... how 'bout you????

[chooch850]

.....and, by the way, Greybishop will be our TVGASM "Heroes" recapper.

[TinkerbellAPixie]

.....and, by the way, Greybishop will be our TVGASM "Heroes" recapper.

About the recapper - :huh2: No one can fill Joe's shoes on Heroes - period.

Excited about the show tho!

[Pekmboyd]

About the recapper - :huh2: No one can fill Joe's shoes on Heroes - period.

Excited about the show tho!

Ditto - I think finding out who the recapper was actually made me grumpy today. I'd really love a Flipit Heroes recap.

[t-bag]

Ditto - I think finding out who the recapper was actually made me grumpy today. I'd really love a Flipit Heroes recap.

Yeah, I feel you. I mean, I know he gets all in-depth and nerdy and stuff, which is okay, but I need some humor, too. That's what the 'gasm is all about. We love our TV, but we also love to get all snarky about it.

Aaaaanyway, tonight's episode was good, but not as awesome as I had hoped. Luckily, next week looks like it'll shape up to be the best Heroes episode thus far. I feel like the future will be like X-Men: mutant/human wars, with a select few stuck in the middle, such as President Petrelli (which will be so cool).

But why I was sort of disappointed with tonight:

-The Peter/Sylar fight wasn't as wild as I was waiting for. I wish it could have gone on longer. You can't tell me Peter would turn invisible and then keep his back to Sylar - that's stupid! He should have been able to fire those glass shards back at Sylar. And then one would mistakenly kill Mohinder.
-I had already seen the video of Lindermann's powers online a while ago, so that was no shocker to me. They shouldn't have released that video. I thought they did because it wasn't going to be the biggest reveal of the episode, but, uh... it kind of was.
-Claire didn't get naked.
-Not that much happened - there was just a lot of people planning different stuff.

With that last one, though, I can't be too disappointed with that at all. That's how the premiers (and this sort of was, like, a third premier for this one season [which I'm so fucking sick of, by the way]) usually go - they just wrap up the cliffhangers from the previous episode, and set up the rest of the season.

So I'm excited with the direction everything is going in (yes, even the Niki/Jessica plot line, finally), but after making us wait an unnecessary six weeks just so they can jam-pack sweeps month with suspense, couldn't they have given us just a little more?

I know, I know, I'm being a greedy little motherfucker. The stuff with the Petrellis kicked ass, the Sylar/Peter fight was the best superpowered fight they've given us so far, Claire was still hot even though she wasn't naked, we get to ponder the mystery of Lindermann's old Justice League, we know Mama Petrelli has a power hidden up her sleeve, a main character was killed, and all sorts of other intriguing stuff happened without even mentioning the killer ending.

Six weeks was a long time, but after that preview for next week, I think the next seven days are going to be even worse. I can't imagine how an episode five years in the future would have even one single dull moment. They never do! Remember how Back To The Future II was by far the best movie out of that trilogy? Remember Samurai Jack? Remember when the Justice League went to the future to battle Chronos?! All awesome.

[Firecat]

Next week does look super, although it looks like Mohinder is still alive. I was hoping he'd break his neck or something when he fell from the ceiling.

I think Sylar and Peter will meet again, and that will be the greatest battle. Perhaps what we saw was just a hint.

My sweet Claire looked awesome. Even future Claire from next week was hot.

It wasn't the best episode of the season, but it gave me the fix I needed. So I won't complain.

So do you guys think HRG is working for Linderman?

[t-bag]

Next week does look super, although it looks like Mohinder is still alive. I was hoping he'd break his neck or something when he fell from the ceiling.

I think Sylar and Peter will meet again, and that will be the greatest battle. Perhaps what we saw was just a hint.

My sweet Claire looked awesome. Even future Claire from next week was hot.

It wasn't the best episode of the season, but it gave me the fix I needed. So I won't complain.

So do you guys think HRG is working for Linderman?

I think it's funny that she's a brunette in the future. It would have been funnier if she was just, like, a crack whore. I hope they do that with one character, even though I know they won't. Like Matt Parkman is just a hobo giving tug-jobs for quarters, and he has nothing to do with the plot any more. Hiro and Ando would just walk past him and he offers them blowjobs, or something. Boy, would that ever be awesome!

And yeah, I think HRG is working for Linderman, but I really believe he had no idea he was. He can't be working for Mrs. Petrelli, since there's no way she'd ever want him to turn in Claire. Maybe he's working for George Takei, since we saw him give HRG Claire.

I'm pretty sure Mrs. Petrelli, her husband, Sulu, and Linderman were all members of this "Justice League", so I'm curious to see which ones used their powers for evil, not to mention what powers they have. I'm pretty sure Sulu went bad, since he's, like, filthy rich and kind of scary. But Mrs. Petrelli can't be evil, because she's so damn lovable, which makes me think Linderman was telling the truth about how the group split up, but lying to Nathan about being on the "good" side.

Or! OR!!!!!1 This just came to me: What if Mrs. Petrelli, her husband, and Sulu still used their powers to help people, but also started to use them to help out their families once they had kids - such as Sulu getting really rich to ensure his children's financial futures, and the Petrellis protecting Nathan and Peter (and eventually Claire). And since Linderman didn't have a kid and couldn't understand, maybe he saw them using their powers for ANY sort of personal improvement whatsoever as horrible, so he started to think that they had turned to the dark side. So then he began to engineer this plan to blow up New York City, thereby giving the world hope and "healing" the 99.93% of the people left, rather than doing it "one person at a time," as he said. I mean, can he really be on the "good" side if he's the most notorious gangster?

After all, everyone knows the greatest villains of all time are the ones who actually believe they are heroes.

My mind won't stop spinning theories about these first-generation heroes, and even though I'm going to love every goddamn second of the future episode, I really want a past episode to tell me who the fuck these people are.

[chooch850]

Maybe the second season will focus on the first generation Heroes.

[photochild]

Ok, first, not excited about the recapper either. If I want an indepth lecture I'll go stop by a University near here. I need something to entertain.

ANYway, on to the episode. It was good. Though, if I were Peter I'd have stood directly behind Sylar when he pulled up all the glass...but I guess this way they did it so Claire could see him again and save his life.

I'm excited about next week, it looks really good, but I'm like the bagster, I'd like to figure out what's going on now!

[Jinger]

Ditto - I think finding out who the recapper was actually made me grumpy today. I'd really love a Flipit Heroes recap.

Ok, first, not excited about the recapper either. If I want an indepth lecture I'll go stop by a University near here. I need something to entertain.

:lol: :lol:
There are no words to describe the crabbiness I felt at seeing that news....but I kept my lip zipped b/c I'm nice like that and now quite happy that others feel my pain. Misery loves company right?


-The Peter/Sylar fight wasn't as wild as I was waiting for. I wish it could have gone on longer. You can't tell me Peter would turn invisible and then keep his back to Sylar - that's stupid! He should have been able to fire those glass shards back at Sylar. And then one would mistakenly kill Mohinder.


Dude, I was totally thinking that Peter can see what he's about to do and should take cover! So yeah, that was on the lame side for sure.

Next week does look super, although it looks like Mohinder is still alive. I was hoping he'd break his neck or something when he fell from the ceiling.

I think Sylar and Peter will meet again, and that will be the greatest battle. Perhaps what we saw was just a hint.


Mohinder is totally alive, he's the one that took Peter home to his mommy. Pay attention FC! :lol:

So...did anyone get the vibe from the previews that maybe Nathan is a little evil in the future? And then the painting that Sylar made which was his rendition of Nathan in the Oval Office, Nathan had a Frankenstein thing going on and at first I thought was b/c Sylar had no artistic skills but after the preview I thought Sylar saw him as a "monster" in his vision. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

[may1]

Ditto - I think finding out who the recapper was actually made me grumpy today. I'd really love a Flipit Heroes recap.

Count me in on the disappointed camp.:sad:

:lol: :lol:
There are no words to describe the crabbiness I felt at seeing that news....but I kept my lip zipped b/c I'm nice like that and now quite happy that others feel my pain. Misery loves company right?

So...did anyone get the vibe from the previews that maybe Nathan is a little evil in the future? And then the painting that Sylar made which was his rendition of Nathan in the Oval Office, Nathan had a Frankenstein thing going on and at first I thought was b/c Sylar had no artistic skills but after the preview I thought Sylar saw him as a "monster" in his vision. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?


YES!!! I had the same thought.

I was excited as hell that the show was finally back on, but I guess the anticipation of it was greater than the show itself. Don't get me wrong, I liked it, but was expecting a little more.
I loved when Matt told HRG he was middle management. Love the chick that transforms herself to other people. Oh, how I'd love to do that!

[pesoplaya]

Though, if I were Peter I'd have stood directly behind Sylar when he pulled up all the glass...but I guess this way they did it so Claire could see him again and save his life.


Remember, Sylar has his new super hearing ability now, so it really would have been difficult for Peter to get the drop on him. If I remember right, that lady mechanic could hear heartbeats, so Peter was not really as invisible as he thought he was. I agree with T-Bag though, I'm not sure how you end up turning your back to the bad guy when he's got shards of glass floating in the air. Unless you are running from the door, I dont see any reason to NOT always keep an eye on Sylar while you are moving around the room. It would have been awesome if Pete saw the glass rise and used his telepathic powers to surprise Sylar and send the glass the 6 inches right back into his face while Sylar was concentrating on tracking Peter with his new ears.

I agree it was not the best episode but it was still a roaring good time. I looked at the online comic before the episode aired last night so Lindermann's power wasn't a surprise. Lindermann's spiel about sacrificing few for the benefit of many was related to the online comic at NBC as well, which was kind of neat.

A few notes from last nights ep:

-Eric Roberts is too cheesy. It is hard to watch him and take him seriously. Loved how he was rocking that half zip sweater fully unzipped to wow us with his bare chest. He might be cheesy, but the man knows how to dress himself!:rolleyes:

-Candice (the illusion girl) is straight gangsta. Love how she gets such a kick out of being bad. Too bad HRG was able to escape the compound... would have loved to see the things she could have showed him to "make him rip his eyes out!"

-A little unbelievable that Eric Roberts wouldn't just go straight to HRG's cell once they figured out Parkman and the radioactive guy were out of their cells and the S started hitting the fan.

-Love how Mohinder is such a screw up. First he's doing pretty much everything wrong in the first 18 episodes before redeeming himself by getting the drop on Sylar, then he screws that up at the end of episode 18. Last night, he left an unconcious Sylar on the floor of his apartment when he could have easily finished extracting his revenge on him before he went to Mama Petrelli's. Now he's working with the company, and by the looks of next week's preview, it looks like evil Nathan and the company are going to get the drop on him AGAIN. At least when he screws up, he does it big...

-Glad to see Issac gone. He had run his course. He did take it like a man though, good for him. Getting staked to the ground with paintbrushes was kind of hardcore.

-Not enough Hiro! Loved the "you.../me?" exchange between present Hiro and future Hiro.

Anyways, can't wait for next week. It should be fun watching present Hiro and Ando work with the future people to figure out how to make things right, since the whole "save the cheerleader, save the world" thing didn't quite work out the way it was supposed to. Back to the drawing board!

Oh, and I'm secretly hoping that they use the same actor to play Micah in the future, just with an eyeliner mustache. That would really make the episode for me.

[tvaholic]

I agree, not the best episode but maybe my anticipation set me up for disappointment. I'm not liking Peter's new attitude, I kind of liked him more as the humble, goofy doofus. I want to know what Mama Petrelli's power is, besides grooming Nate for office.

t-bag, if I understood your post right, I was thinking the same thing about Linderman, that he's setting up the whole NY bomb thing so that he becomes the "healer," as in create the disaster so he can be the salvation everyone turns to-for power, money?

I think the whole shard of glass in Peter's head & the way the are holding onto it rather than throwing it away like most people would do is foreshadowing either the way they'll finally kill Sylar (remember Isaac before he died?) or have something to do with how they'll keep Peter from being the human A-bomb.

What's with Hiro thinking Isaac (or as he pronounced it, I-Suck) is alive? I was as confused as Ando.

Can't wait for next week-Monday's are back, baby!

[t-bag]

Something about my Linderman theory: my roommate pointed out that it's exactly the plot of the comic Watchmen, the bad guy thinking he's saving the world by destroying an entire city. So if my theory is true, then when the Watchmen movie comes out next year, you're all going to be saying they stole it from Heroes. But they didn't!

[may1]

pesoplaya, welcome to the forum. You have brought a lot of insight.

[silentfire]

I think I was the only one who thought this episode, except for some moments, sucked. There was no reason we had to wait 6 or whatever weeks just for a lame episode. They tried to pack everything into one episode and after the awesomeness of the previous episodes I've come to expect better. They should have focused on the peter vs sylar fight, mr bennet,matt,and radioactive guy, and then keep the last minutes with hiro and isaac. Seriously, they fit every character into this episode and gave them a 5minute story, the only person missing was claire's mom, invisible guy, and hannah!

First sylar fight was a total letdown, I expected way more.

Second, I still don't like nikki/jessica, micah, and go-through-wall guy (I forgot his name lol) story.

If Linderman can heal/bring back to life does this mean he is immortal and immune to damage?

How are they going to explain the future self paradox, Multiple dimensions? I believe they are going to mess it up, I don't think future hiro should have met present hiro.

I don't know there was just something about this episode that made me think that this was one of the worst in the season..

[pesoplaya]

If Linderman can heal/bring back to life does this mean he is immortal and immune to damage?


They answer this question in the little online comics at NBC. I don't think I am giving anything away by posting this, since they don't revisit the additional stories from the comics in the actual show. Just in case though, if you want to keep your knowledge of the show untainted from any sources outside of the actual program, STOP READING HERE.

If I remember right, the flower Linderman fixes in last night's episode wasn't quite dead yet. In Lindermann's story in the online comic, he is asked to bring some people back to life. He says that he can only heal things that are still alive. He could have been lying, but I doubt it. Then again, maybe he just wanted to keep them nice and cold for his secret visit back later that night, if you catch my drift (and i think you do...).

[TinkerbellAPixie]

I can't read the posts - cuz I have not watched the show yet - but I did see a new name on here and wanted to jump in and say Hello to Pesoplaya! :D

Also - does anyone know of any OTHER sites that recap Heroes? I don't read recaps from people who are mean mean mean, so I won't be able to read the TVGasm Heroes recaps. Feel free to pm me if you have a good one. :)

[chooch850]

Does anyone check out the on-line stuff? I hear the comic book fills you in on the things the show doesn't have time to. It doesn't spoil the show.

[jampony]

I'm not sure what everyone is pissing and moaning about. I loved this episode. All the little story lines are moving along nicely and we got information that we didn't know six weeks ago. If it's been said once, it's been said a thousand times (but I'll say it again!!)... a bad episode of Heroes is still better than most of the shows out there.

Here are my thoughts:

Mohinder's an ass. Why didn't he chop off Sylar's head or something? And how pathetic was it that Mohinder is the person who ended the "Big Fight", not Peter or any of his special powers. I wonder if that's supposed to mean something. That even non-heroes are important?

Did anyone else get the impression that Future Hiro was disgusted to see Present Day Hiro when they met up at the end? The way FH said "you..." when he saw PDH was odd, like he was pissed at him. Maybe because PDH failed to stop the bomb?

When Sylar sliced open Peter's head I thought "Thank God! Peter finally gets his floppy hair cut!!!" and also "At last! This must be the scar Future Hiro was talking about!" And then it dawned on me that Peter can't scar anymore. So how does he get a scar between now and five years from now?


So do you guys think HRG is working for Linderman?
I don't get this question. I thought we KNOW he's working for Linderman. Or more directly, working for Eric Roberts, who's working for Linderman. Is that not how it is? :confused:



t-bag, if I understood your post right, I was thinking the same thing about Linderman, that he's setting up the whole NY bomb thing so that he becomes the "healer," as in create the disaster so he can be the salvation everyone turns to-for power, money?
Another question I don't get... I thought Linderman pretty much said that his intent is to blow up the city so that everyone will come together in fear and have hope for the future. Or is the question whether or not he's doing it so he can save everyone and make himself the hero?


What's with Hiro thinking Isaac (or as he pronounced it, I-Suck) is alive? I was as confused as Ando.
I didn't get this either... he knows Isaac is dead in the present time and he knows he failed in stopping the city from being blown up, so if he didn't change the future, why would he think Isaac would be alive five years in the future?

[Pekmboyd]

How do we know future Hiro wasn't shape-shifter woman?

[jampony]

How do we know future Hiro wasn't shape-shifter woman?

:eek:

[t-bag]

I don't get this question. I thought we KNOW he's working for Linderman. Or more directly, working for Eric Roberts, who's working for Linderman. Is that not how it is? :confused:

We know Eric Roberts is working for Linderman currently, and we know HRG was working for Eric Roberts. But perhaps Eric Roberts switched sides or something. Nothing's for sure on this show unless it's explicitly said.


Another question I don't get... I thought Linderman pretty much said that his intent is to blow up the city so that everyone will come together in fear and have hope for the future. Or is the question whether or not he's doing it so he can save everyone and make himself the hero?


I think the big question is what are his motives for blowing up the city. Is he doing it to make himself into a hero, or is he doing it because he actually believes he's a hero and that is what the world needs. I don't know which one would be scarier.


I didn't get this either... he knows Isaac is dead in the present time and he knows he failed in stopping the city from being blown up, so if he didn't change the future, why would he think Isaac would be alive five years in the future?

I didn't get that either, but Hiro did in fact say something last night about there being a possibility that Isaac was alive in the future. It didn't make any sense to me, but he had some sort of reasoning for it. Time travel always fucks my shit up.

[t-bag]

Remember how I said yesterday that Heroes is going to steal Watchmen's thunder, plot-wise? Tabloid Baby's a little slow on the uptake (http://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasm/news/heroes/heroes-accused-of-foiling-watc.php).

Warning: Clicking on the previous link will force you to read the words of Tabloid Baby, which may inhibit all sexual urges for up to the next month.

It's childish to gloat, but: neener neener. A kid kicked your ass, TB.

[lbs30]

It's childish to gloat, but: neenerneener.

I could sworn it was all us girls in there tonight T-bag

[pesoplaya]

Did anyone else get the impression that Future Hiro was disgusted to see Present Day Hiro when they met up at the end? The way FH said "you..." when he saw PDH was odd, like he was pissed at him. Maybe because PDH failed to stop the bomb?

He did not seem happy, thats for sure. Maybe he's worked up because having two selves risk tearing the time-space continuum as he mentioned during his train ride with peter? My guess is that hes frustrated. Future Hiro is a bad-ass and has his crazy timeline up, which leads me to believe that he has been putting a lot of effort into cracking this cookie. Seeing current day Hiro at his pad let him know that his plan to visit peter with his cryptic clue is no longer in montion, but failed. Who knows though, time travel is pretty tricky with a flux capacitor, so you have to expect going without one is going to be a mess.

We know Eric Roberts is working for Linderman currently, and we know HRG was working for Eric Roberts. But perhaps Eric Roberts switched sides or something. Nothing's for sure on this show unless it's explicitly said.

Word up. I don't think this is the case, but you never know...

Something else that will keep us on our toes:
How do we know future Hiro wasn't shape-shifter woman?

Homegirl's power is pretty awesome. They will need to find a hero with a super sense of smell to know whats real and whats not!

So...did anyone get the vibe from the previews that maybe Nathan is a little evil in the future? And then the painting that Sylar made which was his rendition of Nathan in the Oval Office, Nathan had a Frankenstein thing going on and at first I thought was b/c Sylar had no artistic skills but after the preview I thought Sylar saw him as a "monster" in his vision. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Didn't think about that point on the painting, but that sounds right to me. It should be interesting to see what changed nathan next week!

[t-bag]

Something that really bothers me: What is that deep monster voice Sylar does? It's clearly not Eden's power of suggestion because it doesn't make anyone do jack shit. But now Peter has the superhearing, so I wonder if that's going to manifest itself any time soon. Should be useful once he masters it, what with knowing when people are lying. I guess that's kind of redundant, though, when you can watch people while you're invisible or just read their minds. Damn, Peter's powerful.

[lbs30]

I was talking elsewhere about how Sylar is stopped.

Some were thinking it was b/c it was published in Isaac's "Hiro" Comic.

Any thought on Isaac giving the messenger his sketch book?

I thought that may have something to do with 'defeating' Sylar.

[Ms. Tumnus]

I was talking elsewhere about how Sylar is stopped.

Some were thinking it was b/c it was published in Isaac's "Hiro" Comic.

Any thought on Isaac giving the messenger his sketch book?

I thought that may have something to do with 'defeating' Sylar.

I think giving away the sketch book was just a final nice gesture. Isaac knew he was about to be killed, and the last thing he did was send off his last comic book containing the instructions how to kill Sylar off to the publishers. In seeing the messenger's enthusiasm for his work, Isaac decided to give him the sketchbook. Didn't he say that that guy was his "favourite" or the "best" messenger? I think it was just Isaac's way of thanking him. And what does he need the sketchbook for if he knows he's about to die?

[tvaholic]

I forgot about the sketch book. I bet there is something in there about stopping Sylar. Think about it, everyone else sees his paintings, the perfect place to hide it would be in a sketchbook that some messenger has. I think everything in the show has some kind of significance, why else would he make a point of giving it to the guy?

And I just assumed the big voice was the Eden power. I guess I should start reading the online comic thing but I don't want to know too much before I see it on the show.

[Tabby Lavalamp]

And I just assumed the big voice was the Eden power.
No, she blew her own brains out so he couldn't get her power.

[pesoplaya]

I think giving away the sketch book was just a final nice gesture. Isaac knew he was about to be killed, and the last thing he did was send off his last comic book containing the instructions how to kill Sylar off to the publishers. In seeing the messenger's enthusiasm for his work, Isaac decided to give him the sketchbook. Didn't he say that that guy was his "favourite" or the "best" messenger? I think it was just Isaac's way of thanking him. And what does he need the sketchbook for if he knows he's about to die?

Just a side note:
The messenger was played by 2003 World Air Guitar Champion and US Air Guitar Hall of Famer, David "C-Diddy" Jung, who is also featured in the documentary "Air Guitar Nation." For your own amusement and personal betterment, youtube the guy.

[Jinger]

I constantly have to remind myself that we don't have a clue as to what all of his powers are since we don't know yet all the brains he has eaten. We know he can freeze stuff too but have yet to see him do that since the one guy that had the little girl. And I just know that little girl will be reappearing at some point too...

[Ms. Tumnus]

We know he can freeze stuff too but have yet to see him do that since the one guy that had the little girl. And I just know that little girl will be reappearing at some point too...

I don't remember that. :confused1:

[Jinger]

It was way early...when Parkman first found his ability and found the little girl hiding under the stairs (which btw had her mother basically skewered to the staircase) and the father was mid-bite and frozen solid w/the top of his head cut off. Then Sylar had gone to the po-po to find the kid but Parkman and Audry stopped him somehow....

and then, this one time, at band camp...

[Ms. Tumnus]

It was way early...when Parkman first found his ability and found the little girl hiding under the stairs (which btw had her mother basically skewered to the staircase) and the father was mid-bite and frozen solid w/the top of his head cut off. Then Sylar had gone to the po-po to find the kid but Parkman and Audry stopped him somehow....

and then, this one time, at band camp...

Riiiiiiiight. I missed the first few eps but saw the screen caps.

[may1]

Remember how I said yesterday that Heroes is going to steal Watchmen's thunder, plot-wise? Tabloid Baby's a little slow on the uptake (http://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasm/news/heroes/heroes-accused-of-foiling-watc.php).

Warning: Clicking on the previous link will force you to read the words of Tabloid Baby, which may inhibit all sexual urges for up to the next month.

It's childish to gloat, but: neener neener. A kid kicked your ass, TB.


I cannot take that risk, t-bag. TB is off limits to me.


It was way early...when Parkman first found his ability and found the little girl hiding under the stairs (which btw had her mother basically skewered to the staircase) and the father was mid-bite and frozen solid w/the top of his head cut off. Then Sylar had gone to the po-po to find the kid but Parkman and Audry stopped him somehow....

and then, this one time, at band camp...

I wonder what the father's power was. That Sylar now has.

[t-bag]

Don't worry about it, may. If you want, GB blabs (or as he would say, "opines") about it for several paragraphs, or from what I could get through in his intro.

[Jinger]

you did better than me, I stopped at the second sentence...then I had to go vomit.

[tvaholic]

Not to be a Nosey Nellie, but what's up with Greybishop? Did I miss some controversy?

[chooch850]

When Gb joined TVGASM he had a fan club type group that followed him here. We welcomed them all and were glad to have so many new members. He commented on his recaps in our LOST forum, as did his friends. We joined in and had some great debates on the show. His fans started discussing other things in the LOST threads.They were directed and encouraged to use the other threads and topics to talk un-LOST related things. Matters got out of hand and things got out of control. It got personal and they attacked some of us. Some of us fought back. It got ugly. It ended with all of them leaving our forums and GB posting a letter on just what he thought of us all and was having everything he had ever posted removed, including his name. He remained a recapper out of respect to b-side....

[t-bag]

It's funny to note that the whole thing started because I said if they were mythical creatures they would be dwarves, but I would be a centaur. I guess I pushed the wrong button or something.

And anyway, I don't dislike the guy for that whole thing. I don't even dislike him. I just don't think he should be writing for TVgasm. Or if he is, he should write in a more TVgasm style, such as inserting a joke once in a while.

[J-Unit]

Hello everybody, sorry I couldn't come in here and talk sooner, but I actually just finished watching Heroes. A shocker, I know. I'll try and pop in here every now and then to talk about the episodes.

-The episode wasn't out of this world, but I think we were all suspecting so much because it has been on hiatus for so long. we've had six weeks to analyze, so perhaps we just aren't that excited. I thought it was pretty good and the revelation of the older Heroes puts a lot of interesting spins on the book.

-Didn't think for a second Peter was dead. I think we all saw that glazed over look in his eyes. I am surprised that Mohinder the fucking genius did not think of pulling it out himself. Actually, I am not surprised, as he is still a dumbass. Seriously, he just knocked out Sylar, why did he not shoot him then, or cut his limbs off and mail his head to Borneo?

-And speaking of Mohinder: great job calling up the company you douchebag. I guess it only took getting pinned to your ceiling to realize you are too much of an idiot to deal with this yourself. Is anybody holding out hope that Mohinder might catch on that Eric Roberts is going to completely screw him over? Not me!

-What are they doing to Ali Larter? Why must they give her that ridiculous hair? Is she being paid in Aqua Net as well as cash?

-Absolutely loved Candice. She's a great villain.

-The escape scene with HRG (give that man an EMMY!) Parkman, and Sprague was great. You knew they were going to get out, but it was interesting to see Sprague doing his EMP thing. It's still a destructive power, but he can sort of be a good guy since EMPs won't, you know, immolate you.

-Hiro on Hiro. Very interesting when he talks about Isaac being alive because Sylar was caught because A) obvs, Sylar wasn't caught, but B) we know that Linderman was running the show, and even if Sylar was caught, Linderman wants NY to blow up!

-Now remember when we talked about the grandfather paradox in time travel in some of the past threads? Hiro mentioned that they could do things differently in the past, then he meets himself, and we are all thinking how can this be. Bear with me for a minute. Remember when Hiro stopped Peter in the subway, he told Peter that they have to save the girl. How did Hiro know what he had to fix? We assumed he was battle tested, and maybe he was, but maybe Hiro knew who to save because he met the version of himself that saw the entire catastrophe and Alternate Hiro told Primary Hiro what needed to be changed. Why couldn't Alternate Hiro go back and tell everybody himself? BECAUSE PRIMARY HERO HAS THE SWORD! Therefore, if Hiro went back and told Peter something, he can go back and tell other people other things. Enough to save Isaac? Maybe not. Enough to save NYC? Perhaps. I am not sure this is how it will shake out and I am sure that they will explain more next week, but it is something to think about.

There is probably a lot more to say, but I still to catch up on some other television.

[chooch850]

J-unit....love your theory on A-Hiro and P-Hiro. Time travel is risky business for us sci-fi lovers. Space-time continueum(sp) comes into play when 2 of the same are in the same place at the same time. But I like the idea of P-Hiro having the power because he has the P-sword.... up until P-Hiro gets it from Linderman's , A-Hiro could control time travel, but when he(A-Hiro) sees P-Hiro in the future, he then realizes that he no longer has the power and P-Hiro is now in control. Did I make any sense ???/

[Firecat]

^That's just what I needed to read. Thanks J-Unit.

Two things...

1.) Save the cheerleader, save the world - Is preventing New York from blowing up, actually saving the "world?" - Maybe there is a bigger picture that we are missing. Linderman thinks so.
2.) Why doesn't Hiro go back in time and tell Mohinder to not be such a dumbass? Or at least smack him upside the head.

I was hoping Mama Petrelli would rip him a new one.

[t-bag]

-What are they doing to Ali Larter? Why must they give her that ridiculous hair? Is she being paid in Aqua Net as well as cash?


I was laughing about that, too. I had flashes of There's Something About Mary.

[tvaholic]

chooch & t-bag, thanks for the explanation, now I can see why our wonderful SuperModerator Tink is upset too. Oh well, shizzle happens, hey?

J-unit, you're like a breath of fresh air! But my head hurts after reading your time travel/Hiro theory. Could just be i'm drowsy from the melatonin I took a 1/2 hr. ago, I'll have to read it again tomorrow!

[pesoplaya]

1.) Save the cheerleader, save the world - Is preventing New York from blowing up, actually saving the "world?" - Maybe there is a bigger picture that we are missing. Linderman thinks

I like that.

[Pekmboyd]

:no: J-unit....love your theory on A-Hiro and P-Hiro. Time travel is risky business for us sci-fi lovers. Space-time continueum(sp) comes into play when 2 of the same are in the same place at the same time. But I like the idea of P-Hiro having the power because he has the P-sword.... up until P-Hiro gets it from Linderman's , A-Hiro could control time travel, but when he(A-Hiro) sees P-Hiro in the future, he then realizes that he no longer has the power and P-Hiro is now in control. Did I make any sense ???/

No :no:

But really...I just choose not to think about the time travel part. It hurts my brain.

[Ms. Tumnus]

I'm so happy J-Unit came out to play!!!!!!!!1

You're sorely missed, and you just proved one of the reasons why.:thumbup:

[silentfire]

I was thinking that maybe all the strings that we see in Isaac's apartment have something to do with "string theory" (wiki that), which I don't really know much about but I remember it has something to do with alternate dimensions or something (maybe I'm wrong). So maybe Hiro isn't really traveling through time but traveling through different dimensions, this can explain why future hiro has all these strings, cause maybe they represent different dimensions that he has visited in attempting to save/prevent the explosion.

[CrazyTrain]

Wow... I just have to say I agree w/you guys about the new recapper. I didn't read the season recap but I just read - well, skimmed since page 1 bored me so much - the 4/23 ep recap. It wasn't a recap, really, more like a play by play of the ep. But I did enjoy the screen caps - the captions under them were funny!

P.S. Time travel makes my head hurt too!!

[Pekmboyd]

Seriously, he just knocked out Sylar, why did he not shoot him then, or cut his limbs off and mail his head to Borneo?


Oh come on! Everybody knows you have to put the head in a special underground tomb garded by spells that can only be broken if you rejoin two pieces of a broken medallion that have been hidden at opposite ends of the earth!

[may1]

I'm so happy J-Unit came out to play!!!!!!!!1

You're sorely missed, and you just proved one of the reasons why.:thumbup:

I absolutely agree!!
J-Unit, I'm most impressed with your knowledge of Aqua Net.

[Ms. Tumnus]

I absolutely agree!!
J-Unit, I'm most impressed with your knowledge of Aqua Net.

Wonder why....:huh:

[t-bag]

Eric Roberts is in The Dark Knight, the sequel to Batman Begins. I'm excited because: 1) I've loved Eric ever since I first saw him in Raptor, quite possibly the worst movie ever (they had a low budget, so whenever the dinosaurs attacked, they just cut in stolen footage from other movies - eventually it got to the point where the scenes with the actual cast of Raptor were only there to try to connect the stolen scenes in a way that kind of made sense). And 2) He plays such an awesome gangster, as evidenced by Heroes, and in TDK he'll be playing the gangster that fucks the shit out of Harvey Dent.

Anyway, that's my loosely-related-to-TV nerdy commentary for today. (Remember how they found real Kryptonite?!?!?!)

[PaulLev]

Heroes in Focus (http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/04/heroes-in-focus.html) - with comparisons to Lost and Battlestar Galactica

[Jinger]

If anyone already said this, apologies in advance but I am too drunk and tired to read through the thread...

So a little scenario has been presented to me and got the wheels turnin....

So how in the previews Nathan seems a little on the evil side...
what if it's Candace (slutty shapeshifter girl) and not Nathan!?!?!? The way he was talkin to Claire in the previews....think about this!

Discuss!

[tvaholic]

you know, I hope there will be some way that someone can figure out if it's the real thing or Candice, because I'm going to get mad if they keep throwing her in everywhere! Don't get me wrong, she's a great villian, but they make it so we can tell the difference between Nikki & Jessica, even DL & Micah figured it out.

BTW Jinger, interesting point-maybe that's how she gets called out too-ok, if your Nathan, jump out that window & fly, bitch!

[Pekmboyd]

you know, I hope there will be some way that someone can figure out if it's the real thing or Candice, because I'm going to get mad if they keep throwing her in everywhere! Don't get me wrong, she's a great villian, but they make it so we can tell the difference between Nikki & Jessica, even DL & Micah figured it out.

BTW Jinger, interesting point-maybe that's how she gets called out too-ok, if your Nathan, jump out that window & fly, bitch!

I agree tv - with her ability you can no longer believe anything, because there is always the possibility that it's her.

[TinkerbellAPixie]

How do we know future Hiro wasn't shape-shifter woman?

I agree tv - with her ability you can no longer believe anything, because there is always the possibility that it's her.

When Mark and I were watching together - everytime anyone did anything unusual we were both saying - It's Shapeshift! It got to where we were thinking everyone was shapeshifter.

Warning: Clicking on the previous link will force you to read the words of Tabloid Baby, which may inhibit all sexual urges for up to the next month.

I'm a fiercely loyal girl - when your kind to me I will be kind to you - when you screw me (or more importantly - when you screw my friends) I have a much hard time. TB was horrible to my friends - really ugly and mean. I will NEVER click a TB link. Not ever. And I'm pretty much feeling the same way about the GB recaps he was really mean to my friends and he encouraged his cult to do the same. Worse than that - his recaps are DULL (biggest crime you can commit in the blogworld) I hate that he is recapping my two all-time favorite dramas. Someone humorless and UNKIND - I can not support him in any way.

Hello everybody, sorry I couldn't come in here and talk sooner, but I actually just finished watching Heroes. A shocker, I know. I'll try and pop in here every now and then to talk about the episodes.


Yay -with J-Unit popping in to share his Heroes thoughts - I won't even NEED to find an alternate recap. WOO HOO!

Any thought on Isaac giving the messenger his sketch book?

I thought that may have something to do with 'defeating' Sylar.

At first I thought the messenger was the shapeshifter chick again (I know - I can't help it). But, I definitely think that the secrets to stopping Sylar are in there.

[silentfire]

did anyone catch the heroes cast on larry king? It was pretty interesting and they showed clips of the new episode. Future hiro is definitely not Candice (and I agree there needs be a way to find out when she is transformed) because you see him giving some explanation to current hiro, I think he said "we saved the cheerleader but the bomb still went off" i dont remember really.

Nikki was HOT, hotter than normal during the interview. I felt bad for Isaac since they were talking about how he was first hero killed and he tried to imply that maybe there was a chance of him coming back (I'm thinking like Boone does in Lost). Parkman originally tried for the part of Peter and HRG was never mean't to be a main character, more of a guest appearance.

[Tabby Lavalamp]

I still don't think that Candice is a shapeshifter. She's more a projector of illusions because she managed to make a body invisible. The only problem with that is they'd had people touch her while projecting the illusion, and if what they felt didn't match what they saw, you'd think they'd notice. This, however, is something I put down to careless writing.

I disagree that we need to be able to tell when it's her. I kinda like the feeling of never knowing if we're seeing the real person or not. It adds to the tension of the show and to be able to tell would take away from the reveals.
Besides, it's not like all the heroes can be taken in by her. Parkman and Peter with Parkman's power should be able to easily mind read through the illusion, and the Haitian may be able to cancel out the illusion power if he comes back.

[tvaholic]

Oooh, that's a good point Tabby, that Parkman should be able to tell. But it just seems right now that she has the most powerful power simply because so few people know about her. Everyone's so afraid of Sylar, but she could do so much damage, I alomst think they are going to have to find a way to call her out because Sylar is the main bad guy, not her. Unless she'll play a more pivotal role with Linderman in season 2...

[Tabby Lavalamp]

But it just seems right now that she has the most powerful power simply because so few people know about her.
No, Peter still has the most powerful power. Candice's power is only useful under the right circumstances. She has a great power for theft or espionage, but once heroes start knowing about her, the potential for damage can be minimized quite easily. Frankly, it would be as easy as picking a code word. After that, the best she could do is cast an illusion to make it look like she's not in a room then eavesdrop.
And speaking of Peter, how awesome would it be to see him turn that power back on them?

[Firecat]

Speaking of peter taking others powers...does he have all the powers that sylar took? Like Eden's?

[jampony]

Speaking of peter taking others powers...does he have all the powers that sylar took? Like Eden's?
I thought Eden killed herself before Sylar took her power.

[Firecat]

That's what I thought, but I recall Sylar using her "voice" thing. But maybe Peter could have picked it up, didn't he meet her before...or maybe was near her.

I dunno.

[silentfire]

yeah he does use the voice but so did peter in one episode. I don't know why though since eden did kill herself, maybe it's the sound of all the powers they've absorbed.

[may1]

I disagree that we need to be able to tell when it's her. I kinda like the feeling of never knowing if we're seeing the real person or not. It adds to the tension of the show and to be able to tell would take away from the reveals.
Besides, it's not like all the heroes can be taken in by her. Parkman and Peter with Parkman's power should be able to easily mind read through the illusion, and the Haitian may be able to cancel out the illusion power if he comes back.


Tabby, you are so smart. I agree with you about it adding to the tension of the show. I don't want to know if it's her or not.

[Firecat]

We do know how to tell though. The character will be acting unusual, and you can tell when they aren't acting themselves.

[Firecat]

Just saw on the NBC site that they auctioned some of the paintings. "Homecoming" went for $25,000

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/auction/

[jampony]

Just saw on the NBC site that they auctioned some of the paintings. "Homecoming" went for $25,000

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/auction/

Wow, I would have thought that "Hiro Battles T-Rex" would have gone for more than $9,200. I thought everybody loved Hiro!