Lost: Eggtown (2/21)

[chooch850]

How the hell did Kate pull that one off! Desmond's vision showed Clair and the baby getting in the copter together. What the hell happened.... Clair fall out of the chopper?

[jampony]

And why is the baby considered one of the six (according to previews for last night's episode -- they said another one of the Oceanic Six will be revealed)? He wasn't on the flight. Well, I guess technically he was. So where did Kate get all the money from to live in the pretty house and have a nanny?

And why doesn't Jack want to see the baby? Because HE pushed Claire out of the helicopter?

And WTF was up with Kate asking questions as if she was British? Jack does that every so often, too, and I find it very annoying. (They stress the second to the last word instead of the last like we do.)

Oh! And did you hear Jack when he said everyone else (besides the oceanic six) died on the island? Do you think that was a lie, too?

Okay, so who are the six? Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Aaron... did I miss someone? Have they said all six already? What about Ben? Does he count? What if Walt or (what the heck is the dad's name?) his father made it back? Would they count? Or maybe the dog is the sixth!

[chooch850]

Jack said that only 8 survived the crash. Two of the 8 died even tho Kate tried to save them. She told Jack that she had heard him tell that story so many times that she was afraid Jack was starting to believe it as the truth. So he bald-faced lied when he put his hand on the bible.

I wondered about Kate's fancy house too. I thought she either got it from the crash settlement or somehow got a piece of that 3.2 million bucks.

......... and the baby being one of the six is not fair!!!

Oh yeh, one more thing...... Kate's mom says she's been sick for 4 years. Aaron doesn't look 4 yrs. old. I think that has a connection to Jack's statement that he hadn't seen a ballgame in 100 days. Time is altered for sure on that island!

[TinkerbellAPixie]

So where did Kate get all the money from to live in the pretty house and have a nanny?



I agree with Chooch - I think they all got settlements from Oceanic Airlines when they were rescued. Plus they got that golden ticket to travel as much as they like. I think Kate's lawyer was getting ready to mention that when the opposing lawyer said Kate would have to stay put in California, he was starting to say "but she can go.." and Kate cut him off to say she'd take the deal. I can understand why someone might not like to travel by air after that flight.

Do you suppose when Kate met Jack in the season finale and said she had to get back to "him, he'll wonder where I am" - do you suppose the "him" is Aaron?

Oh yeh, one more thing...... Kate's mom says she's been sick for 4 years. Aaron doesn't look 4 yrs. old. I think that has a connection to Jack's statement that he hadn't seen a ballgame in 100 days. Time is altered for sure on that island!

Yeah - I think that space/time continuum is mucked up and I think that's why the helicopter hasn't reached the ship yet - I think it's still traveling through time.

[angiemarie]

This episode was kind of boring to me. But I'm not a Kate fan, that's probably why I didn't enjoy it too much. Sawyer was so right about Kate running back to him when she gets mad at Jack again.

Why did Kate want Miles to tell her if he knew who she was or not? That was so weird to me.

Locke is becoming Ben-lite. He's bossy and arrogant, but unlike Ben he's ignorant about what's really going on with the island. Protector of the island, indeed. :rolleyes:

[Wayne]

Never expected the ending, i was sitting wondering who the father was - Sawyer or Jack lol.

I don't think Aaron will be classed as one of the 6, i heard a rumour that there may be more than the Oceanic 6 off the island, that was confirmed with Ben last week and i think Aaron might be the same.

[TinkerbellAPixie]

Why did Kate want Miles to tell her if he knew who she was or not? That was so weird to me.


I think she needed to know how widespread knowledge of her crimes was before determining if she should consider being rescued. If she was getting off the island only to land in jail then it might not be a bad idea to stay with Sawyer instead.

I don't think Aaron will be classed as one of the 6, i heard a rumour that there may be more than the Oceanic 6 off the island, that was confirmed with Ben last week and i think Aaron might be the same.

The reason we question if Aaron is one of the six is because the previews and promos for last night teased that we would get to see another one of the 6 in that episode. The only person that we saw last night who we weren't already aware of was Aaron.

[chooch850]

I do not think Ben was rescued from the island. He has his own ways of getting around. I think Sayid is the only one who knows how to contact him.

It may be just me, but I just didn't see the sexual tension between Sawyer and Kate in this episode. They are both too suspisious of each other to relax. Sawyer was right, Kate just uses him to make Jack mad. I think the only reason she wanted to know if Miles knew who she was, was to determine if she was gonna stay on the island or not. Maybe she was hoping that if they didn't know her past, she could sneek back into the country unnoticed....... But now we all got our answer as to how Kate could go back and not be arrested or charged. She was!

Ben should have won that EMMY!

[Clair]

I don't remember a pregnancy scare for Kate that she and Sawyer were refering to - something about a pregnancy test. Can someone refresh my memory?

[TinkerbellAPixie]

After Kate and Sawyer's tumble in captivity she came back and found out from Juliette that women who are pregnant on the island die on the island. When she and Juliette took Sun to the Medical Station they checked to see when Sun conceived (remember she had an ultrasound I think). While there, Juliette also checked Kate and they determined she was not pregnant.

[Clair]

Thanks Tink.

I thought that Aaron as Kate's baby was glaringly obvious about halfway through the episode. I also thought that an attorney wanting to know if Jack loved Kate was highly improbable, "Do you love her??!" Please.

[TinkerbellAPixie]

Unless they were trying to work the angle that if he was in love with her he would lie for her. But yea, that was cheesy.

He looked great last night. MMM yum. Love clean cut Jack.

[stupid]

I don’t care what that stupid rocket clock said. I’m not buying this time warp thing. I think the writers are just screwing with our heads. Kind of like how they tried to make it seem like they were all dead last season. I think the chopper dose reach the boat and Sayid and Desmond are on the ship. The girl is just covering so they can’t talk to each other.
So fare they have only been missing for just over 3 months and Kate comes back with a baby? Everyone thinks Kate had a baby on the island? It takes 9 months to have a baby. How long dose it take for a pregnant woman to show? It’s before 4 months isn’t it? How much longer are they going to be LOST? And like I said. I don’t buy the time laps thing.

[LonnaSaur]

Wow, I thought this was a fantastic episode! I never saw the twist coming and almost fell out of my chair when Kate called her "son" Aaron.

One thing that has been bugging me, though, is how dirty almost everyone looks. I am not sure how long the Locke followers have been in Otherville, maybe only a day or two, but I think the very first thing I would do is hit the showers! Kate looked so grungy and her clothes were really dirty. And Sawyer really needs to shave. I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does. Juliet is really looking rough, too, but she is on the beach so it makes more sense.

I'm starting to question whether Jin and Sun get off the island. I wonder if there are Losties who were rescued, but then refused to go along with whatever cover story was fabricated, so that they conveniently "disappeared" to keep them from telling the truth? Or is that way too harsh and too much of a conspiracy theory?

Finally, I keep thinking about the psychic who told Clair that her baby had to be raised by her. Didn't he say that? So will bad things happen because it seems that Kate, and not Clair, is raising Aaron? Desmond's vision about the rescue seems to have been wrong in that Penelope is not the woman who came to the island, so he could have been wrong about Clair and Aaron getting on the helicopter, too. But I don't understand how Aaron made it and Clair didn't. Hmmmmm.

[LonnaSaur]

Okay, I just went back and watched some parts of the episode over again and I wonder if the dialogue between Miles and Ben was some kind of a code. Their language sounds very stilted and when Ben asks, "Why 3.2?" I wonder if he is trying to clarify something and they are both speaking in code. It's a very strange back-and-forth between those two.

[chooch850]

One thing that has been bugging me, though, is how dirty almost everyone looks. I am not sure how long the Locke followers have been in Otherville, maybe only a day or two, but I think the very first thing I would do is hit the showers! Kate looked so grungy and her clothes were really dirty. And Sawyer really needs to shave. I don't know why it bothers me so much, but it does.

Thank you for bringing this up...... I couldn't believe that Clair and Kate are outside hanging linen to dry and Kate's standing there all grungy...... and what the hell are they doing washing sheets? I thought maybe it was diapers for Aaron so I rewound it and it was sheets. At least Locke had a nice, clean white t-shirt on.

[angiemarie]

Finally, I keep thinking about the psychic who told Clair that her baby had to be raised by her. Didn't he say that? So will bad things happen because it seems that Kate, and not Clair, is raising Aaron? Desmond's vision about the rescue seems to have been wrong in that Penelope is not the woman who came to the island, so he could have been wrong about Clair and Aaron getting on the helicopter, too. But I don't understand how Aaron made it and Clair didn't. Hmmmmm.

OMG, so I know I'm really slow on the uptake when it comes to Lost, but I just realized something. If future Kate is raising Aaron, she is raising Jack's nephew. I wonder if future Jack knows that.

And maybe Clair dies on the island, and her body is sent back home. That would explain Des' vision, I guess.

[jampony]

OMG, so I know I'm really slow on the uptake when it comes to Lost, but I just realized something. If future Kate is raising Aaron, she is raising Jack's nephew. I wonder if future Jack knows that.

And maybe Clair dies on the island, and her body is sent back home. That would explain Des' vision, I guess.

Good brain work, ang! I totally forgot Jack and Clair are sibs.

I was thinking about what tink said about the season finale last year when Kate said she had to get back to "him, he'll wonder where I am". I don't know if I would say that about a toddler. Do any of you with little kids in your lives think that's a normal thing to say? It's really bugging me now because I think Kate was talking about an adult and for some reason, I keep thinking it's Ben. But I would really like it to be Sawyer.

[Pattijo]

Good brain work, ang! I totally forgot Jack and Clair are sibs.

I was thinking about what tink said about the season finale last year when Kate said she had to get back to "him, he'll wonder where I am". I don't know if I would say that about a toddler. Do any of you with little kids in your lives think that's a normal thing to say? It's really bugging me now because I think Kate was talking about an adult and for some reason, I keep thinking it's Ben. But I would really like it to be Sawyer.

I don't think she would be Ben. I have been thinking about this and I was wondering if Syaid was the one who died. I thought that maybe it was him because he was working for Ben. Since he wasn't from america that would be why no one was there. But then again it could be ben that was dead. But maybe it was Swayer. Maybe he really pissed Kate off. And I really should go post in the drunk thread because I have had toooo much to drink.

[here4beer]

OK I have had another semi-plausible Lost theory... so everyone get ready!!! they don't happen often.

I'm guessing Ben is one of the Oceanic 6, but not in the way we would think... he had access to the manifest and knew all the personal details about the passengers on the flight. He would know which/ if any passenger had no family or friends waiting for them back at home... so I am guessing he assumed someone's identity and is now considered one of the Oceanic 6, even though he was already on the island when the plane crashed.

Or perhaps I am reading way too much into this show and need to get a life. :D

[LonnaSaur]

Good brain work, ang! I totally forgot Jack and Clair are sibs.

I was thinking about what tink said about the season finale last year when Kate said she had to get back to "him, he'll wonder where I am". I don't know if I would say that about a toddler. Do any of you with little kids in your lives think that's a normal thing to say? It's really bugging me now because I think Kate was talking about an adult and for some reason, I keep thinking it's Ben. But I would really like it to be Sawyer.

But would Kate ask Jack back to the house if Sawyer was there and she and Swayer are together? I don't think so.

I don't think she would be Ben. I have been thinking about this and I was wondering if Syaid was the one who died. I thought that maybe it was him because he was working for Ben. Since he wasn't from america that would be why no one was there. But then again it could be ben that was dead. But maybe it was Swayer. Maybe he really pissed Kate off. And I really should go post in the drunk thread because I have had toooo much to drink.

But does Sayid have a teenage son (as the obit said)? I guess he could but we have seen no indication that he does.

[TinkerbellAPixie]

I'm guessing Ben is one of the Oceanic 6, but not in the way we would think... he had access to the manifest and knew all the personal details about the passengers on the flight. He would know which/ if any passenger had no family or friends waiting for them back at home... so I am guessing he assumed someone's identity and is now considered one of the Oceanic 6, even though he was already on the island when the plane crashed.

I don't think so and I'll tell you why. The Oceanic 6 seem to be pretty well known and recognized, yet Sayid's GF's boss needed info on Sayid's Boss (Ben). If Ben was a highly recognizable Oceanic 6 survivor he'd have a hard time going underground and he seemed very underground. I hope I didn't phrase that too confusingly - it almost made sense in my head.

But would Kate ask Jack back to the house if Sawyer was there and she and Swayer are together? I don't think so.

But does Sayid have a teenage son (as the obit said)? I guess he could but we have seen no indication that he does.


OOH two excellent points Lonna - I agree with you on the Kate/Jack/Sawyer point and am intrigued by the Sayid one.

[gasmilicous]

I was thinking about what tink said about the season finale last year when Kate said she had to get back to "him, he'll wonder where I am". I don't know if I would say that about a toddler. Do any of you with little kids in your lives think that's a normal thing to say? It's really bugging me now because I think Kate was talking about an adult and for some reason, I keep thinking it's Ben. But I would really like it to be Sawyer.

I think she was referring to Aaron. While it's true you wouldn't refer to your OWN child as him...you might refer to someone else's as him.

[gasmilicous]

OK I have had another semi-plausible Lost theory... so everyone get ready!!! they don't happen often.

I'm guessing Ben is one of the Oceanic 6, but not in the way we would think... he had access to the manifest and knew all the personal details about the passengers on the flight. He would know which/ if any passenger had no family or friends waiting for them back at home... so I am guessing he assumed someone's identity and is now considered one of the Oceanic 6, even though he was already on the island when the plane crashed.

Or perhaps I am reading way too much into this show and need to get a life. :D

This is interesting because remember Ben DID have all of those passports and what not. Maybe he WAS on the plane, but not as Ben.

[chooch850]

Ben was NOT on the plane. He watched the plane crash from the compound and sent Nathan & Ethan to check on both halves and make a list of all the survivors.

....as I stated before, I don't think anyone but Sayid knows about Ben. I think he is able to gt back and forth to the island on his own. Remember, he is a wanted man and is systematically having Sayid kill them one at a time...... Now "Them" know it is Ben who is behind it all..... unless our Losties make a deal with Them to surrender Ben, that is how he gets off the island and once in the states, he disappears. He obviously has many connections...... hmmmmmm, now I'm just thinking out loud, sorry.

[gasmilicous]

Oh duh...chooch you are totally right. How could I forget about Ben seeing the plane crash from the island??:blushing:

I don't remember the promos saying that we would see another one of the Oceanic 6. And I'm still sticking with Aaron doesn't count, as he was not on the manifest.

Here's a really good interview with the Lost writers, discussing some of the info/theories on this season (including the issue of whether or not Ben is one of the Oceanic 6):
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20179125_1,00.html

[TinkerbellAPixie]

GREAT article Gasmy - thanks for sharing!

[Wayne]

None of the promos for the episode in the UK stated that another one of the 6 would be shown.

I still don't think Aaron will be counted as one of the 6.

[jampony]

Here's the promo for Eggtown that some of us heard. It's at the very end that they say the next one will be revealed. But now I'm wondering if they were being tricky when they say "one" and not "one of the Oceanic 6".

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc596NrROwE

[gasmilicous]

I think I have figured out who the 6 are. In the interview with the writers that I posted a few days ago, they mention that we will know who the 6 are by the 7th episode. Based on the list of episodes, the flash forwards/back/whatevers will be this:

Episode 5: Desmond
Episode 6: Jin and Sun

So since we already know Sayid, Hurley, Jack, and Kate. I'm putting my money on Jin and Sun rounding out the 6.

[TinkerbellAPixie]

OOOH good detective work!

[gasmilicous]

Why thank you. One of my friends teases me that if I could get paid for Lost researching and reporting, I'd never have to work another day.

I'm friggin obsessed with this show.

[chooch850]

Does that mean tonight's episodes all about Desmond? I'm so excited no matter who, but Desmond stories are always thinkers.

[gasmilicous]

Yep, so I hear.

[gasmilicous]

So, I was just thinking about something else. When Faraday and Charlotte are doing whatever they are doing with cards...was he guessing what the cards were a la psychic abilities? Or trying to remember the cards already shown to him?

I'm wondering if perhaps he has no short-term memory or something. And maybe that's why he "didn't know" why he was crying when the news came on announcing they found the sunken plane, or why he wasn’t able to explain the gas masks that fell from the chopper?