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jenny10girl
08-13-2006, 01:58 PM
Originally Posted by angiemarie:
Speaking of boobs, and when aren't we? I saw a good friend of mine yesterday who I haven't seen in about a year. We email and chat on the phone.
She got a boob job, but never mentioned it to me. Should I have complimented her? Or do you just pretend those have been her boobs all along? I didn't say anything wanting to err on the side of caution. But, damn, I have about a thousand questions. How much did it cost, how long is the recovery, and why did you do it, just to name a few. This girl has a really cute figure and didn't need any enhancement IMO.
angiemarie...I would so call your friend on it if it is that obvious....anyone else agree?
angiemarie
08-13-2006, 02:05 PM
Thanks for starting this thread, Jenny. And congratulations on your engagement and finding the perfect dress. My friend with the enhanced bosom is newly engaged. Maybe her fiance wanted to get her something a little more exciting than the traditional diamond engagement ring.:infatuated2:
jampony
08-13-2006, 04:10 PM
She got a boob job, but never mentioned it to me. Should I have complimented her?
Depends on what kind of a friend she is. If she really is a close friend I would compliment her. If she's more like a frenemy... I would totally call her on it with a very clever backhanded compliment or even a vague comment. "Hey, you got your boobs done!" would leave her wondering if that's a compliment or an insult. Or "It's so great that your self esteem is so high you don't worry about the rest of your body" or how about "How much did it cost?" and then whatever amount she says you say "Yeah, it looks like it." Ooh, I'm in a mean mood today. :sneaky2:
Firecat
08-13-2006, 04:21 PM
I'd say something like..."You look different, I just can't put my finger on what it is....hmmm....new hairstyle? new shade of nail polish?"
Lizardqueen
08-13-2006, 05:02 PM
My cousin got her boobs done a couple of years ago and we all just talked about it behind her back.;)
I'm already on record as feeling that plastic surgery=misogyny, so I'll leave it at that.
jenny10girl
08-13-2006, 05:11 PM
I'm assuming this boob job was a real obvious one? If so, she was probably totally waiting for you to say something...
EdHill
08-13-2006, 05:57 PM
I knew girl who got a boob job. THE best part is she was so excited she about it would let everyone feel em. Also, she had one leg.
True story.
Firecat
08-13-2006, 06:14 PM
I'm already on record as feeling that plastic surgery=misogyny, so I'll leave it at that.
As far as breast augmentation is concerned only?
zoobabe
08-13-2006, 06:19 PM
one of my friends got her nipple pierced last week (she a natural D-cup). She said 'wanna see"? and showed me a pic of it on her cellphone when we were at the karaoke bar. I said "Oh...........cool":blushing: it was just weird to see a pic of a naked boobie on a cellphone.
Lizardqueen
08-13-2006, 06:21 PM
As far as breast augmentation is concerned only?
No, I said plastic surgery. I can see fixing a cleft palate so a child doesn't starve to death etc., but the rest, I think, is just an ugly indictment of our society. The idea that children DO starve to death but adults pay billions of dollars to electively alter their natural appearance is not easily reconciled in my mind.
PS- Firecat come chat with me
PPS- That looks like an even 300 for me. Lick it up nic75!:tonguewag:
zoobabe
08-13-2006, 06:25 PM
PPS- That looks like an even 300 for me. Lick it up nic75!:tonguewag:
now I'm singing that song in my head. "lick it up, lick it up, oh oh oh"!:simplesmile:
Firecat
08-13-2006, 06:28 PM
Then it wouldn't really be misogynistic, because men have plastic surgery as well. Maybe it's misanthropic?
lol...either way, I gotta disagree. People change their appearance all the time, they dye their hair...wear makeup. Some people wear wigs, or get hair implants. If it helps with their confidence, I think it's positive.
Lizardqueen
08-13-2006, 06:36 PM
Then it wouldn't really be misogynistic, because men have plastic surgery as well. Maybe it's misanthropic?
lol...either way, I gotta disagree. People change their appearance all the time, they dye their hair...wear makeup. Some people wear wigs, or get hair implants. If it helps with their confidence, I think it's positive.
Yeah I'm personally against all that garbage too. To me it's a sad statement that personal appearance trumps taking care of our fellow man. And the statistics show that it is mostly women who get these procedures (due to societal pressures) and purchase makeup etc. Sorry to get into this here. That's why I said come chat with me! Plus I've missed you;) Also, I would hate for anyone to think that I actually care for others. The horror!
jelliepair
08-13-2006, 06:49 PM
My sister had her boobs done a few years ago and had them redone this year. Her daughter (my neice) had hers done at the same time this year. Kind of like a four for one.
I had to take care of them both after having it done. I have never seen anyone in so much pain as my sister when she had them done the first time. She is tiny tiny and works out everyday so the giant boobs they put in her were too big for her chest and her skin had to stretch to accomodate them. She was in agony and drugged to the gills.
Sis is a real bitch so while I felt bad for her to be in so much pain, I actually thought it was funny that anyone would go through that much pain for vanity.
I'll keep my au'natural boobs, thank you very much.
Firecat
08-13-2006, 06:59 PM
Yeah I'm personally against all that garbage too. To me it's a sad statement that personal appearance trumps taking care of our fellow man. And the statistics show that it is mostly women who get these procedures (due to societal pressures) and purchase makeup etc. Sorry to get into this here. That's why I said come chat with me! Plus I've missed you;) Also, I would hate for anyone to think that I actually care for others. The horror!
lol....
I can't really chat now, kinda busy with other things...just popping in now and then to check on some threads.
I probably agree with you on a personal level, I wouldn't do those things myself. But that's because I don't care about how I look, I shave when I feel like it...I wear crappy clothing too (Actually, I pretty much only wear white t-shirts now...some with stains).
Lizardqueen
08-13-2006, 07:12 PM
My sister had her boobs done a few years ago and had them redone this year. Her daughter (my neice) had hers done at the same time this year. Kind of like a four for one.
I had to take care of them both after having it done. I have never seen anyone in so much pain as my sister when she had them done the first time. She is tiny tiny and works out everyday so the giant boobs they put in her were too big for her chest and her skin had to stretch to accomodate them. She was in agony and drugged to the gills.
Sis is a real bitch so while I felt bad for her to be in so much pain, I actually thought it was funny that anyone would go through that much pain for vanity.
I'll keep my au'natural boobs, thank you very much.
jelliepair I'm cringing as I read this. Totally grossed out. Incidentally, your screen name always conjures up fake tits for me. :D Just thought you'd like to know that.
Bauer's Sweetheart
08-13-2006, 07:50 PM
I would say to the friend - "Your boobs look incredible! Is that a Wonderbra or something more permanent?" and depending on how that question goes over, then you will know if you can move on to the others.
I have a friend who had hers done after having three children in the space of four years. Then she lost all the weight and had hardly any boobs left. I think the "new" ones look pretty good, not horribly big for her size 4 body. I haven't got the nerve up to ask if I can feel them but sometime after I couple of margaritas I am sure I will. I might not even ask before grabbing them!
I am pleased with my own boobs right now - one of the benefits of pregnancy. I am trying to decide if I should take a picture because they will never look so big again.
And LQ, what about a tummy tuck for mothers? I am a very small person who grows very large babies. Even though I lose all the pregnancy weight, I am still left with a poochy pouch of skin. No matter how much I exercise (and I am not one of those people who gives up on my body after becoming a mom) I can't make the pouch go away because my ab muscles are permanently split. The only way to repair them is with surgery, so why not have all the extra skin cut off while I am at it? But it seems like such a nasty and painful experience that I haven't decided yet.
copygodd
08-13-2006, 08:07 PM
i'd say, "wow, those are new." then ask if i could feel them.
i'm against plastic surgery too. although i have no problem with coloring one's hair. i dyed my hair red for the longest time, because my facial hair (beard and eyebrows) are red, but my hair is dirty brownish. i just got tired of everyone asking if i dyed my facial hair because it didn't match my regular hair.
of course, that was back in my pony tail days; now i keep it too short to bother with any color. if it were up to me, i'd just shave it, but the wife says no way. i've tried to get her to dye her hair red for the longest time, as i've a thing for redheads, but she won't do it.
maybe if i offered her some new boobs...
jenny10girl
08-14-2006, 03:47 AM
I think as long as you are doing things for yourself and not someone else (ie a boyfriend who thinks you have small boobs or whatever) then I don't see the harm. It's those people who become addicted to it that I have a problem with. Like that lady that looks like a cat...ew.
PS I color my hair and have no problem telling people that. I should have been born a red head LOL...
Lizardqueen
08-14-2006, 06:06 AM
I would say to the friend - "Your boobs look incredible! Is that a Wonderbra or something more permanent?" and depending on how that question goes over, then you will know if you can move on to the others.
I have a friend who had hers done after having three children in the space of four years. Then she lost all the weight and had hardly any boobs left. I think the "new" ones look pretty good, not horribly big for her size 4 body. I haven't got the nerve up to ask if I can feel them but sometime after I couple of margaritas I am sure I will. I might not even ask before grabbing them!
I am pleased with my own boobs right now - one of the benefits of pregnancy. I am trying to decide if I should take a picture because they will never look so big again.
And LQ, what about a tummy tuck for mothers? I am a very small person who grows very large babies. Even though I lose all the pregnancy weight, I am still left with a poochy pouch of skin. No matter how much I exercise (and I am not one of those people who gives up on my body after becoming a mom) I can't make the pouch go away because my ab muscles are permanently split. The only way to repair them is with surgery, so why not have all the extra skin cut off while I am at it? But it seems like such a nasty and painful experience that I haven't decided yet.
Hey, I really didn't want to start a thing here and make anyone feel bad. You always do those things for other people not for yourself. If you were alone on an island you wouldn't bother with any of it. I think of this on a much more global perspective and that influences my personal feelings and actions on the subject. Regarding tummy tucks for mothers- If that's what you need to feel good... But I still say you're doing that for somebody else. The photos of the tummy's look pretty gross even in the "after" versions to me, including the hip to hip gash. You hide this under clothes (hopefully;) ) so that other people look at you and say "you look wonderful". You see, in my utopia women are celebrated for being mothers, revered for their stretch marks and milk filled boobs and worthwhile men love them for it. You know I could go on and on, but I'll stop. Now you have a little glimpse into the "Resident granola crunchin', commune livin', world changin' Diva"
angiemarie
08-14-2006, 07:53 AM
I try not to be too judgemental about getting plastic surgery. I wanted to get a nose job when I was younger, but I am totally frightened by surgery so I never followed through. Now, I'm glad I didn't. I think my desire for a nose job was just normal adolescent anxiety about my looks that I focused in one area.
My problem isn't with plastic surgery as much as it is our society's pressure to be perfect all the time. On women and men. Have the perfect clothes, job, body, face, hair, and spouse or you are just a loser. This doesn't work on me, being older I know what I think is important. But if was 18-25 now, I'm sure I would have had the surgery and regretted it later.
Anyway, back to boobs. I've decided not to say anything to my friend about her boob job. If she wanted to talk about it, she would have told me. I may actually be tellling her about my breast reduction surgery sometime in the coming year. I'm not bragging, being heavy on top isn't all fun and games. The headaches, back and neck pain are getting worse as I get older. Thanks for all your suggestions, and for letting me get that off my "chest". (everybody groan at the bad pun)
jampony
08-14-2006, 07:58 AM
i'd say, "wow, those are new." then ask if i could feel them.
i'm against plastic surgery too. although i have no problem with coloring one's hair. i dyed my hair red for the longest time, because my facial hair (beard and eyebrows) are red, but my hair is dirty brownish. i just got tired of everyone asking if i dyed my facial hair because it didn't match my regular hair.
of course, that was back in my pony tail days; now i keep it too short to bother with any color. if it were up to me, i'd just shave it, but the wife says no way. i've tried to get her to dye her hair red for the longest time, as i've a thing for redheads, but she won't do it.
maybe if i offered her some new boobs...
or maybe if you got some pec implants first (or even a Brazillian butt lift)...
ObstinantGirl
08-14-2006, 08:09 AM
I'm assuming this boob job was a real obvious one? If so, she was probably totally waiting for you to say something...
Which is why I'd be disinclined to do so, but that's just me! :rolleyes:
Also, I would say to the friend - "Your boobs look incredible!"
But what if you don't think that they do? Because you don't like the look of fake breasts? Or what if you don't want to be forced to encourage/praise someone for something they've done that you don't think that they should have (or needed to)? It's such an individual thing.
I guess we've all got our own 'lines in the sand'. And we're all somewhat contradictory, whether we like to admit it or not! I know people who, darnit, will NOT wear makeup or color their hair, but they'll buy clothes that are so expensive that I'd be embarrassed to own them! I have a closetful of cool clothes and shoes, but I probably spent no more than $30 per pair of shoes, and $25 per item for tops/pants/skirts...I'm a bargain shopper! And I love to shop. When I tire of things (which I do fairly quickly) I donate them all, and they're still in EXCELLENT condition, to the Salvation Army, or to friends/family I know who are less fortunate than I am. I wear makeup and color my hair and wear cool/fun clothes because it makes ME feel good...I could go all day without anyone commenting on what I look like, and I'd still feel great :p
I could afford a more expensive vehicle & home than the ones that we own, but ObstinantGuy and I don't feel comfortable doing that. It feels overly and unnecessarily extravagant. Americans don't typically feel 'rich' until we can compare ourselves favorably (in our own minds) to those around us who have fancy, showy stuff (of whatever sort)...but we ARE so rich, even most lower-class, lower-income Americans when compared to people in many other parts of the world. And when there are literally people who live around the corner from me who are probably not eating 3 square meals a day, I can't bring myself to do/buy a variety of things.
[/steps down from perch sheepishly...walks away quietly...]
Adriana
08-14-2006, 08:16 AM
kinda off topic
my best friend had the procedure twice.
she got breast cancer at age 21 and needed reconstructive surgery on both.
but she told only her family, bf, and me about the cancer. she's private and hates sympathy.
one of her friends did talk smack about getting them done and felt like bad when she was forced to admit the truth. their friendship has been strained since.
she is of the very, very small percentage who did it for medical reason, and some cancer patients don't opt for surgery anyhow, but she is young and who gives a shit?
i personally don't care either way.
and yes, they were saline, hard as rocks, and didn't move even in a earthquake. anybody who says he can't tell is lying.
brilliantmistake
08-14-2006, 12:19 PM
I'm not against the idea of plastic surgery, but two things do bother me.
The main one is how unnatural people look afterwards. Look at Pam Anderson now vs. pre-surgery. She was gorgeous and has become frightening. More like a blow-up doll than a person.
Ditto for a lot of the plastic facial surgery. I admit, I've looked at photos and thought, hmmm, she looks better. But when you see the 'after' people in person, and to a lesser extent on video, you realize how unnaturally their faces move. It's intensely creepy. Same with Botox.
The thing that bothers me is the risk. For a lot of these surgeries, you have to go under general anaesthesia, and that's always risky.
That being said, I still have occassional liposuction fantasies (Running, biking, hiking, diving and dieting just has never been enough). These fantasies are usually cured by seeing liposuction performed on TV- no thanks.
jenny10girl
08-14-2006, 12:29 PM
When it comes to facial surgery I think it really depends on how far you go and what you have done. My sister had her nose done senior year in High School and you'd never know it now....I decided to keep the Italian nose. It gives me character...but then again, do I really need any more of that? :D
Lizardqueen
08-14-2006, 01:07 PM
I'm not against the idea of plastic surgery, but two things do bother me.
The main one is how unnatural people look afterwards. Look at Pam Anderson now vs. pre-surgery. She was gorgeous and has become frightening. More like a blow-up doll than a person.
Ditto for a lot of the plastic facial surgery. I admit, I've looked at photos and thought, hmmm, she looks better. But when you see the 'after' people in person, and to a lesser extent on video, you realize how unnaturally their faces move. It's intensely creepy. Same with Botox.
The thing that bothers me is the risk. For a lot of these surgeries, you have to go under general anaesthesia, and that's always risky.
That being said, I still have occassional liposuction fantasies (Running, biking, hiking, diving and dieting just has never been enough). These fantasies are usually cured by seeing liposuction performed on TV- no thanks.
I really want to stop, but my impulsive nature overrides any common sense I may have ever possessed - Would you have these fantasies if your mind weren't trained to think that women's legs and asses should have no texture? All of your favorite anorexic, siliconed models and celebs look hair and dimple free thanks to the marvel of airbrushing. That's why they also have perfectly even skin tones, no zits, etc. I'm looking for some pictures to link to. Can't find them yet. And none of this even begins to address the bigger picture of "What the fuck kind of world are we agreeing to be a part of." (she said as she posted on a forum about bad television)
subgenre
08-14-2006, 01:08 PM
I am coming from the different end of the spectrum.
I am very well endowed and I have, since puberty, had a lot of issues about my boobs. I cannot fit into most tops my size so I have to wear huge muumuu like shirts or else squeeze into the proper sized top and then feel like my boobs are on display for all and sundry to gawk at.
I never understood why tiny breasted women would want to have such huge jugs. Any thing over a D cup and the clothes fit wrong, the bras are fugly and you NEVER meet a man (and some women!) who will look into your eyes. Doesn't matter how big my tummy or my butt gets, either. As long as I sport my double wide Hindenburgs, that is what people see, focus on, and rudely comment on.
I have always wanted to be an A cup and wear those cute little tanks sans bra. That would be awesome!!!
A while ago, there was a cheesy reality TV show (*gasp!* say it ain't so!) where men and women switched genders. The man, at first wanted DD cup fake boobies. When he went to try on clothes, he realized that they made him look fat and lumpy and awkward. He went instead for a B cup that looked more natural on his frame. It was eye-opening for him.
I think all women, especially YOUNG women (anyone still in childbearing years!), considering breast augmentation should have to wear falsies for a month before altering their bodies.
Like I said, I am naturally big and it has always been a hindrance. So much so that I have considered breast reduction surgery, but like others have said on this thread, I refuse to alter my body for vanity's sake. That's just playing with fire. IMHO.
tvaholic
08-14-2006, 01:10 PM
I have to say I'm happy with my B/C's, especially since I only have to wear one bra while playing sports (volleyball, softball) unlike some of my friends who have to wear 2 or 3. A friend of mine had 2-1/2 pounds taken out of each one about 10 years ago-besides the back pain I think she also got tired of guys asking her if she was bringing the twins out & never looking her the eyes. One poor woman I saw in the tournament I played in over the weekend-man, I'm a straight chick but I was like whoa, look at those knockers! :ohmy: Had to be real, they moved too much. But man, that's just gotta be annoying.
Firecat
08-14-2006, 01:22 PM
Hmmm...maybe plastic surgery isn't the way to go, and one should be happy with the way they are.
Guess I should cancel my penis reduction surgery...
brutal youth
08-14-2006, 01:24 PM
whenever i feel a little down about my appearance, i take a gander at the awful plastic surgery website and remind myself, "At least I didn't pay a shitload of money to look like THAT."
Firecat
08-14-2006, 01:26 PM
whenever i feel a little down about my appearance, i take a gander at the awful plastic surgery website and remind myself, "At least I didn't pay a shitload of money to look like THAT."
Like pics of Meg "Trout Lips" Ryan?
http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/archives/000303.html
Is it for real? I haven't seen her in such a long time....
HoneyBunny
08-14-2006, 02:02 PM
Like pics of Meg "Trout Lips" Ryan?
There was a movie with Don Knotts as a fish -- I swear those are the same lips!
hb
OD-TV
08-14-2006, 02:17 PM
There was a movie with Don Knotts as a fish -- I swear those are the same lips!
hb
The Incredible Mr. Limpit
jampony
08-14-2006, 02:31 PM
Hmmm...maybe plastic surgery isn't the way to go, and one should be happy with the way they are.
Guess I should cancel my penis reduction surgery...
Well, unless it's causing you back pain...
HoneyBunny
08-14-2006, 02:35 PM
The Incredible Mr. Limpit
Oh - thank you OD ~
hb
Ok, now I have to put my two cents in. What's really fucked up about all this is that we (women) are doing this 95% for other women. I mean, truthfully - if you polled ten random men on the street, I bet you 9 would rather see Scarlett Johanssen naked over Nicole Richie. I know those are extreme cases and hello, like Scarlett Johanssen has a "normal" body but still. Men like curves, they like voluptuous figures. It's WOMEN who make women feel bad about themselves.
Come on sisters, UNITE! I say this as someone with nice natural boobs (but a big nose and fat arms) and as someone who has - many times - talked smack about other women. But I'm really trying to change. Even now, I force myself to say nice things about Condaleeza Rice or even, gulp, Karen Hughes because truly - they are women in high powered jobs, out there doing their thing and they need support from women. (I just wish Karen would call me before she gets her hair frosted again...no, wait! STOP BSL!!!)
Lizardqueen
08-14-2006, 02:42 PM
Hmmm...maybe plastic surgery isn't the way to go, and one should be happy with the way they are.
Guess I should cancel my penis reduction surgery...
Firecat, I love you. And not just because of your HUGE cock.
Firecat
08-14-2006, 03:03 PM
Firecat, I love you. And not just because of your HUGE cock.
Well, it's not that big....
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1647/800pxrooster1abiv3.jpg
Lizardqueen
08-14-2006, 03:05 PM
It's bigger than I ever imagined!:blushing: Now, if I were EdHill, I'd tell you I'm "tyipng iwth one ahnd."
brilliantmistake
08-14-2006, 03:40 PM
I really want to stop, but my impulsive nature overrides any common sense I may have ever possessed - Would you have these fantasies if your mind weren't trained to think that women's legs and asses should have no texture? All of your favorite anorexic, siliconed models and celebs look hair and dimple free thanks to the marvel of airbrushing. That's why they also have perfectly even skin tones, no zits, etc. I'm looking for some pictures to link to. Can't find them yet. And none of this even begins to address the bigger picture of "What the fuck kind of world are we agreeing to be a part of." (she said as she posted on a forum about bad television)
Oh, LQ, we never want you to stop.
Believe me, I'm as aware as anybody how fake all that is, especially living in Santa Barbara, where a lot of people fall for that myth. I mostly just get sick of how much work it is to maintain a reasonable healthy weight, one my doctor will approve of. I exercise for fun & my health, not my looks, so the liposuction fantasy is rare. It's rapidly cured by the videos of the liposuction procedure, complete with the painful drugged out aftermath of those who go through it.
And for digital retouching see
http://homepage.mac.com/gapodaca/digital/bikini/index.html
brilliantmistake
08-14-2006, 03:45 PM
Here's another retouching site
http://demo.fb.se/e/girlpower/retouch/retouch/index.html
I should have learned how to do this before I put my photo up on match.com
Lizardqueen
08-14-2006, 03:54 PM
Oh, LQ, we never want you to stop.
Believe me, I'm as aware as anybody how fake all that is, especially living in Santa Barbara, where a lot of people fall for that myth. I mostly just get sick of how much work it is to maintain a reasonable healthy weight, one my doctor will approve of. I exercise for fun & my health, not my looks, so the liposuction fantasy is rare. It's rapidly cured by the videos of the liposuction procedure, complete with the painful drugged out aftermath of those who go through it.
And for digital retouching see
http://homepage.mac.com/gapodaca/digital/bikini/index.html
Hey, I've got this internal battle too. And the bitchy, catty, judging people by their appearance problem. In fact when I clicked on your first link my immediate reaction (after I recoiled in HORROR) was "OOF, mamacita is lookin' ROUGH!"
brilliantmistake
08-14-2006, 04:22 PM
Hey, I've got this internal battle too. And the bitchy, catty, judging people by their appearance problem. In fact when I clicked on your first link my immediate reaction (after I recoiled in HORROR) was "OOF, mamacita is lookin' ROUGH!"
Well, we wouldn't love snark if we didn't love snap, shallow judgements on celebrities & reality show contestants.
Lets face it, I don't watch Celebrity Fit Club out of empathy or for dieting tips.
angiemarie
08-14-2006, 04:43 PM
When it comes to facial surgery I think it really depends on how far you go and what you have done. My sister had her nose done senior year in High School and you'd never know it now....I decided to keep the Italian nose. It gives me character...but then again, do I really need any more of that? :D
Yay for Italian noses! :thumbup:
HoneyBunny
08-14-2006, 04:54 PM
Well, it's not that big....
Tommy Lee is so jealous...his is only 9 inches.
hb
Bauer's Sweetheart
08-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Regarding tummy tucks for mothers- If that's what you need to feel good... But I still say you're doing that for somebody else. The photos of the tummy's look pretty gross even in the "after" versions to me, including the hip to hip gash. You hide this under clothes (hopefully;) ) so that other people look at you and say "you look wonderful".
The horrible scar is part of my hesitation, but I've already got one down there from the c-section, so sometimes I think, how bad could a couple inches more of scar be? Also, I think how wrong it would be to risk my health/life when I have three kids? Is having a flat belly more important than being around for them?
It's just that I used to have such a cute belly - a nice little waist and a sexy little innie, and now I've got a stretch marked pouch and an umbilical hernia that makes my belly button as big as a golf ball. I'm proud of my body for what it has been through but I would be even prouder if it could be resilient enough to go back to what it was at age 25!
Lizardqueen
08-14-2006, 06:05 PM
The horrible scar is part of my hesitation, but I've already got one down there from the c-section, so sometimes I think, how bad could a couple inches more of scar be? Also, I think how wrong it would be to risk my health/life when I have three kids? Is having a flat belly more important than being around for them?
It's just that I used to have such a cute belly - a nice little waist and a sexy little innie, and now I've got a stretch marked pouch and an umbilical hernia that makes my belly button as big as a golf ball. I'm proud of my body for what it has been through but I would be even prouder if it could be resilient enough to go back to what it was at age 25!
I hear you, and I can even relate to some of what you're saying. But, at best, in the most selfish terms, that surgery would just prolong the agony, if you will. It won't keep you from aging, sagging, drying up down the line. I think the most frightening examples of plastic surgery are on women in their late 30's who want to look 20. No surgeon can make us 18 again and we know that. It's a fantasy. What i'm getting at is the thinking behind that collective fantasy. Why do so many of us have it? Even perfectly lovely, healthy people. I guess I'm a bit of an armchair revolutionary. I'd like to radically change the course of the world, but the enormity of the task overwhelms me and causes me to bitch and moan about Survivor, Project Runway, and company.
zoobabe
08-14-2006, 08:42 PM
Yay for Italian noses! :thumbup:
I third that!:D Bellisimo!
copygodd
08-14-2006, 09:02 PM
or maybe if you got some pec implants first (or even a Brazillian butt lift)...
a brazillian butt lift? isn't that just shaving my ass? :confused:
EdHill
08-14-2006, 09:17 PM
anyone else want to see a picture of Lizardqueen cooter?
here ya go. I warn you, its pretty hot, and somewhat crazy:
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/cooter.jpg
Tabby Lavalamp
08-14-2006, 10:35 PM
I'd hit that...
Firecat
08-14-2006, 11:06 PM
Is that a man or a woman?
jenny10girl
08-15-2006, 04:30 AM
anyone else want to see a picture of Lizardqueen cooter?
here ya go. I warn you, its pretty hot, and somewhat crazy:
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/cooter.jpg
THAT'S HOT!!
HoneyBunny
08-15-2006, 07:02 AM
anyone else want to see a picture of Lizardqueen cooter?
here ya go. I warn you, its pretty hot, and somewhat crazy:
Oh Geez --- I looked before I realized I don't have her required $5000 viewing fee. I will have to make monthly payments...
hb
Tabby Lavalamp
08-15-2006, 08:26 AM
Is that a man or a woman?
You, my friend, haven't watched nearly enough Dukes of Hazzard.
joeypotter
08-15-2006, 09:24 AM
Hasn't anyone seen Dr. 90210? That show is so sick and pathetic. And the doctors are scumbags.
Subgenre, I'm with ya having the naturally big jugs. It is no picnic. Men always look south first, then into my face. Instead of fantasizing about looking hot and sexy, I fantasize about getting up, putting on a tank top and shorts and ta-da! I'm dressed. And it is no joke about back pain. That part sucks.
I decided a while back not to have an opinion on plastic surgery (unless, of course, its for medical reasons). I can't judge because I never know if I'll wake up one day and decide I want some "work" done.... Hopefully if that happens I'll turn on an episode of Dr. 90210 and be horrified back into the reality that what I gots is what I gots and that's OK for the long haul.
Clair
08-15-2006, 11:05 AM
The horrible scar is part of my hesitation, but I've already got one down there from the c-section, so sometimes I think, how bad could a couple inches more of scar be? Also, I think how wrong it would be to risk my health/life when I have three kids? Is having a flat belly more important than being around for them?
It's just that I used to have such a cute belly - a nice little waist and a sexy little innie, and now I've got a stretch marked pouch and an umbilical hernia that makes my belly button as big as a golf ball. I'm proud of my body for what it has been through but I would be even prouder if it could be resilient enough to go back to what it was at age 25!
My cousin got it done and recovery took a long, long time. Of course she looks good in a bikini but she still has stretch marks and (much as I hate to say this) her belly button looks like an anus.
Firecat
08-15-2006, 11:28 AM
You, my friend, haven't watched nearly enough Dukes of Hazzard.
I am proud to say that I haven't watched any Dukes of Hazzard.
ScotyUtah
08-15-2006, 11:39 AM
Isn't this the "all about boobs" thread? Come on people, let's get back on point with the topic!
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:q-nqQcci9tlzUM:http://www.houseofraeford.com/lakewood
Tabby Lavalamp
08-15-2006, 04:20 PM
Isn't this the "all about boobs" thread? Come on people, let's get back on point with the topic!
Hey, if "all about boobs" doesn't describe the entire cast of Dukes...
ObstinantGirl
08-16-2006, 09:05 AM
Like I said, I am naturally big and it has always been a hindrance. So much so that I have considered breast reduction surgery, but like others have said on this thread, I refuse to alter my body for vanity's sake. That's just playing with fire. IMHO.
Same here. You get treated differently when you're large-chested (there are guys (and women) who I swear wouldn't recognize my face if they ran into me on the street and I was wearing a bulky coat), and it's more difficult to do things (like play sports, run around with your children, etc). My husband was recently trying to teach me how to swing a golf club, and I literally COULD NOT DO IT the way that he was telling me to, because my breasts were in the way! I had to alter and find a different way. And yes, trying to find clothes that fit correctly and don't either look slutty or matronly, it's always been challenging.
Now, I won't lie and say that there aren't some advantages to being large-breasted, because there are times when it's quite nice! But all of that weighed against the back pain, constant sores and skin irritation under my breasts & arms (from the sweating and the bras) and the permanent indentations on my shoulderblades (from the bra straps digging in), etc....I'd happily size-down. And after having & nursing two children, and aging, the 'girls' are not quite as perky as they used to be either. If I wasn't afraid of more surgeries (having had 2 c-sections, appendix removal, sinus surgery, and a few other non-elective surgeries over the past 20 years) I'd consider breast reduction, not for appearance sake but for comfort.
angiemarie
08-16-2006, 07:24 PM
My husband was recently trying to teach me how to swing a golf club, and I literally COULD NOT DO IT the way that he was telling me to, because my breasts were in the way! I had to alter and find a different way.
I had the same problem when I was learning how to play pool. It was so embarrassing. But, they are also a great excuse, if you mess up. "I would have made that shot, but the girls got in the way." :blush:
angiemarie
08-15-2007, 07:01 PM
giving this thread a boob, I mean a bump, because it has some really funny stuff
TinkerbellAPixie
08-15-2007, 08:12 PM
How timely, today I was explaining my spider phobia to my friend at work. She told me she has a phobia of circles that all started with seeing some medical show on tv where some woman had a tape worm or something crawl out of her boob. (I seriously doubt that happened).
She says she hates circles, but most of all she hates boobs. She can not stand to see them - it makes her feel ill and panicky.
And you thought my spider phobia was odd.
HereKittyKitty
08-15-2007, 08:19 PM
I'm just going to throw my two cents in here and say that I love my girls. They are just large enough to get guy's attention, but not so large/saggy that I absolutely have to wear a bra.
I definitely understand how girls with larger chests feel though. My best friend talks about getting a reduction all the time. She's never met a guy that looked north first. I just hope mine never get that big!
Pekmboyd
08-16-2007, 03:57 AM
How timely, today I was explaining my spider phobia to my friend at work. She told me she has a phobia of circles that all started with seeing some medical show on tv where some woman had a tape worm or something crawl out of her boob. (I seriously doubt that happened).
She says she hates circles, but most of all she hates boobs. She can not stand to see them - it makes her feel ill and panicky.
And you thought my spider phobia was odd.
So does she have a sub-phobia of looking in mirrors naked?
TinkerbellAPixie
08-16-2007, 05:09 AM
Probably - she did say that she doesn't let her bf play with her boobs.
We recently decorated her cube for her birthday and we put confetti all over. She said she had to have another girl that works there clean up the confetti before she could work because all the little circles everywhere were causing her anxiety.
RachWho?
08-16-2007, 05:13 AM
Weird--I know a guy who has a fear of buttons. (he loves boobs, though) Buttons are circular. Does this woman fear buttons?
I love my boobs, and as I have said before, it can be a pain to be large-chested with a smaller waist, but I wouldn't trade 'em! I do hate all the strapless fashions out there, because I just can't wear 'em.
animalcrackers
08-16-2007, 06:25 AM
I do hate all the strapless fashions out there, because I just can't wear 'em.
I agree! and spaghetti strap tank tops are horrible too! those thin little straps do nothing!
and now i am wondering how the hell the circle phobia girl actually gets anything done/goes out.... how you can be afraid of CIRCLES?? this is my new favorite phobia i think...
:gun_bandana: O take that crazy circles!
LonnaSaur
08-16-2007, 06:41 AM
A steering wheel is a circle. Does she drive? I could never give up eating doughnuts, either. Are doughnuts bad?
TinkerbellAPixie
08-16-2007, 08:58 AM
Ok so I just asked her about steering wheels and donuts. She said she is ok with those but she can't look at pierced nipples (so she wouldn't like BB Eric). She also doesn't like patterns of circles. She said she fears holes more than circles. So when you pick up a phone that has tons of holes on the mouthpiece part - that upsets her.
I asked her about chocolate chip cookies and pepperoni pizzas - she said she is ok with both.
It's such a bizarre and random phobia so I keep walking over with new questions.
I just called her this was the dialogue
Me: Compact Mirrors?
Her: No
Hang up - call back
Me: Manhole covers?
Her: OMG YES!!
LonnaSaur
08-16-2007, 09:10 AM
Well of course, a manhole cover is a circle that leads into a circle-shaped hole. That must give her nightmares. How awful to have a debilitating phobia like that. Engagement rings? Gosh, I hope she's not scared of those!
minda07
08-16-2007, 09:11 AM
Ok so I just asked her about steering wheels and donuts. She said she is ok with those but she can't look at pierced nipples (so she wouldn't like BB Eric). She also doesn't like patterns of circles. She said she fears holes more than circles. So when you pick up a phone that has tons of holes on the mouthpiece part - that upsets her.
I asked her about chocolate chip cookies and pepperoni pizzas - she said she is ok with both.
It's such a bizarre and random phobia so I keep walking over with new questions.
I just called her this was the dialogue
Me: Compact Mirrors?
Her: No
Hang up - call back
Me: Manhole covers?
Her: OMG YES!!
I love it - if I worked with her I would be doing the same thing!
LonnaSaur
08-16-2007, 09:12 AM
I love it - if I worked with her I would be doing the same thing!
I'm sort of doing it to Tink.
(ooh, that sounds bad . . .)
TinkerbellAPixie
08-16-2007, 09:15 AM
Oooh Lonna - you saucy girl you ;)
photochild
08-16-2007, 10:20 AM
How absolutely hilarious. I'm looking around and noticing all the circles near me now. She'd hate my computer speakers at work, they are a whole lot of circle shaped holes on them.
As for boobs, I love them. I love that people are amazed by mine. That sounds horrible, but it's always hilarious when they realize how big they really are. I pay no mind to them, but my friend took a picture of me a couple weeks ago lying on the couch and each one is about the size of my head. They don't bother me at all. I don't have back issues, and some shirts may fit oddly, but I'm never uncomfortable. Tink, your coworker would hate me.
Ms. Tumnus
08-16-2007, 10:36 AM
I love my boobs, and as I have said before, it can be a pain to be large-chested with a smaller waist.
Boo-freaking-hoo
:)
Mine grew at least a cup size when I was taking Depoprovera, then shrank back down to a B after I stopped.
I just got back on the pill after two years of being on nothing and they've been sore for over a month and I think they're growing again. The boy seems happy, but I can't stand how sensitive they are.
lennonwhore
08-16-2007, 10:58 AM
i donated my boobs to science.
i.m happier that way and my boobs are helping to save the world!
Clair
08-16-2007, 11:32 AM
Tink - traffic lights? cups? jars? the moon? elevator buttons?
animalcrackers
08-16-2007, 12:23 PM
i have noticed that random people talk to me alot more when i am wearing my Hooter's t-shirt.
Example: I was at Bed Bath & Beyond picking out things for my wedding regestry and the woman in the fine china section (who was in a suit and looked all prime & proper) said "i really like your shirt". i said thanks and then looked down realizing that i was in fact wearing my hooters t-shirt.
Example 2: i was helping my younger sister move out of her college dorm and that was my only clean t-shirt at the time. 3 different boys yelled HOOTERS at me and then tried to talk to me. it was crazyness!
and no, i have never worked at Hooters. I went there with my college roommates as an inside joke and we all got shirts to commemorate the occassion. But still, everyone should get one because people love them apparently!
TinkerbellAPixie
08-16-2007, 01:30 PM
Tink - traffic lights? cups? jars? the moon? elevator buttons?
Ok I checked:
Traffic Lights - from a distance, no, up close when you can see they are made up of tons of tiny circles - YES
Cups - no, unless you poke holes in them or if they have circle patterns on them
Jars - no
The Moon - from a distance - no, up close you can see craters - than it's a big Yes.
I think she's starting to get annoyed by me....lmao
Ok - she is - she just sent me an email with nothing but this in the body:
clusters
I have a phobia of holes and clusters of holes. I haven't had this phobia all my life and that i know of noone else in my family has this phobia or one like ...
www.unusualphobias.com/clusters.html
Clair
08-16-2007, 01:41 PM
I think she's starting to get annoyed by me....lmao
Well, she's no fun!
Totally kidding.
TinkerbellAPixie
08-16-2007, 01:50 PM
She then emailed me to say she feels bad that people think she's weird. So I emailed her to apologize and say it's really no weirder than my spider thing.
Then I get a phone call from what sounded like one of the munchkins from Wizard of Oz - it was Amber, she had sucked helium from a birthday balloon and was pretending to be the voice of the spider calling to tell me he'd be waiting for me when I got home.
I may have to retaliate with some hole punch dots.
angiemarie
08-16-2007, 02:06 PM
Then I get a phone call from what sounded like one of the munchkins from Wizard of Oz - it was Amber, she had sucked helium from a birthday balloon and was pretending to be the voice of the spider calling to tell me he'd be waiting for me when I got home.
I may have to retaliate with some hole punch dots.
lol, I can see this escalating to a really unpleasant ending. Every spider and circle is the state of Florida is going to end up in your offices.
dr.birdie
08-16-2007, 02:17 PM
but something like a fresh gun shot wound, and some sponges.
so, OLD gun shot wounds are OK? I may have this phobia if seeing yourself with a fresh gunshot wound would make you squeemish.
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