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TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 05:40 PM
The beginning of the end.

Will CBS pull this show outta the crapper - that remains to be seen.

Post all spoilery stuff here.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 06:05 PM
For those of you who wonder what chat is like:

[chooch850] 9:59 pm: want to make wagers on how long this comp lasts?

[TinkerbellAPixie] 9:59 pm: sure - I'll say an hour and 13 minutes

[lrhflute] 9:59 pm: I say 1 1/2 hours TOPS

[shantigal] 10:00 pm: I say Nat out 10 min, total time 34 min.

[2tkings] 10:00 pm: it won't last long...none of the 3 left are really that great of competitors

[2tkings] 10:00 pm: nat will go first

[shantigal] 10:01 pm: What are we wagering for the comp time?

[TinkerbellAPixie] 10:01 pm: winner gets a night of passion with jeff?

[Shelley] 10:01 pm: Im in!

[2tkings] 10:02 pm: i'm in!!!!

[2tkings] 10:02 pm: i wager 1 hour, 18 min.

[lrhflute] 10:02 pm: I wager 1 hour, 30 minutes

[chooch850] 10:03 pm: I bet it's over by the time the feeds come back on. still trivia

[TinkerbellAPixie] 10:04 pm: shelley what was your guess?

[Shelley] 10:04 pm: ummm 103 minutes

[Slumrville] 10:05 pm: I wager 2hrs 10 minutes

chooch850
09-08-2009, 06:06 PM
Still trivia kids......

10:13pm est still trivia......

I think of all the work the stage crew put into this competition set & it's going to be over so soon! But it will last longer than the "volcano" year when Boogie jumped off, leaving Erica & Janelle hanging on.

10:17pm ...trivia...

10:27pm.... thy are back. Everyone is still on the log. Talking about sushi & other endurance comps. Nat is talking about taking her hoodie off. No rain right now....

The log stopped ubruptly & Kevin hollered out OMG!! They all almost fell off.... then it started pouring & finally the log started rolling again only backwards now. The rain has stopped.

Natalie had been doing a bit of Michele bashing, saying that she will get a week alone with Jeff now, something she has always wanted because she was sooo jealous of Jordan. She was also prepared to give her hell at the live show but Michele was nice when she left so she was too.

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shantigal
09-08-2009, 06:17 PM
Hi Chooch, now what's happening? I'm impatient.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 06:30 PM
From Morty's Twitter:

Feeds. All three still up
Kev, Jord 1-handing the key, Nat 2 handing
Log still rolling slowly.
Nat engaging Jord in convo. F3 talking about too heavy clothes that are now all wet. J hopes it won't spin faster.

kittkatt
09-08-2009, 06:33 PM
Would love some pics Chooch! Especially if you can catch one of Nastylie slamming face first into the log when she "throws"(lol) the comp. That is if she can stay on long enough for the feeds to come back on.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 06:40 PM
From Morty's:

We are back with rain . Winds and leaves died down
rain stops
Jordan starts singing 1000 bottles of beer on the wall and BB has to go to trivia to tell her to stop

Update:

Log is rolling backwards now, no rain
Jordan is walking more sideways right now, but Natalie says they have to face the pool

Log stops again. Nat liked backwards. Jordan didn't. Kevin flashes Jord/Nat a quick smile but he is mostly focused.

Wind and leaves blowing again.

Log rolling forward again.

Wind gone, but log now rolling a little faster as Nat sneezes twice. Three times. Jordan gives her 3 bless yous.

Kev thinks it has been 30. N/J say 45m. It's been 1hr 10m. (so I lost the bet if they don't drop in 3 minutes)

Log rolling faster now. Natalie still has 2 hands. Kevin sneezing. Kevin has 2 hands too. All three have 2 hands on key as it starts raining again

Log slows to a crawl and reverses direction

Rain stops. All three still hanging in there.

Rolling rolling rolling, see these F3 strolling, see these F3 strolling along. log rolling very slow. Natalie shaking out her hand.

More rain as log is rolling forward again, leaves blowing again

Ice now coming at the F3. You can hear the ice chipper. It's Winter time, snow falling.

BTW, the log does have a bit of tread on it so little chance it will freeze up.

Kevin/Jordan seem most comfortable, Natalie is least due to size but none showing weakness (YAY)

chooch850
09-08-2009, 07:13 PM
Natalie is having sneezing fits! Maybe they will knock her off the log. They keep switching up the speed & direction of the log rolling with poring rain & leaves blowing. Kevin covers his eyes from the debris. They all agree that this is definitely a Jeff/Russell competition. (Michele would have rocked this one too). Natalie is wondering how long it's been. Kevin says maybe 30 min.

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Now Kevin is sneezing.....

The season's have changed & now they are raining snow & Ice on them.

Shelley
09-08-2009, 07:16 PM
snow and ice?! wow that is harsh!! i can't believe they've ALL held on this long! maybe i will win the bet :)

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 07:17 PM
Snow stops. Kev says Winter sucks. They think it was like shaving cream or soap. Nat really concerned. She has a think about soap snow.

But she is not letting go. Sorry Nat haters.

The F3's legs are all coated with ice.

There is now a bright lite Kev reports, but no heat yet. Spring maybe. Nat & Kev say this is easier than Graduation Day.

Log rolling slowly backwards.

April showers bring more rain to the BY as the log is rolling faster backwards then stops and starts forward again.

BB tricking up the HG with the log stopping faster and changing directions faster.

Stop and start, backwards forwards, backward and backwards, forwards and forwards, but no one hs fallen off yet more snow it seems.

BB really working the HG. Jordan looked close a few times. She seems to be breathing heavily.

Rain stops. snow stops. Log slows down. None of the F3 happy.

There are sprays directed at each HG.

BB calls out to F3 to flick their mikes while the log and weather is stopped. After the announcement, trivia. Now log rolling forward again.

Shelley
09-08-2009, 07:18 PM
this is just CBS attempt to bathe Ratalie

chooch850
09-08-2009, 07:21 PM
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SNOW!!!

Kevin is very focused. He's in his zen mode picking a spot to focus on. Natalie is flailing all over the place. She's huffing & puffing like crazy. Jordan is holding her own. Kevin's pants are starting to slip down.

Oh oh... something techincal is wrong. BB told them to just keep holding on to their keys... everything has stopped. They are told to flick their mics to get the water off them. Now the log is slowly rolling again. Kevin tells the girls that they are doing a good job & to hang tight. Natalie thinks something's going to happen & it starts to rain.....

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 07:30 PM
All three F3 offer each other encouragement as the log rolls forward again.

BB really trying to shake them off the log but no luck. Kev says please tell me it broke. Nope. Nat says its unbreakable.

In addition to the weather and rolling log, the F3 keep hearing sounds from above and beyond which make them fear what is coming next.

Lightening and rain. Log is still for the moment.

chooch850
09-08-2009, 07:36 PM
Kevin: "Please tell me it broke!"
Nat: "Kevin, it's unbreakable."

Shelley
09-08-2009, 07:38 PM
ugh i know we all want to go to sleep!! nat and kev fall off already!

Shelley
09-08-2009, 07:40 PM
thanks for hanging in there tink and chooch! i know it can't be easy!

Shelley
09-08-2009, 07:40 PM
ps how cool is it that i'm totally in the entourage?! :cool:

chooch850
09-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Now it's lightning...no rain yet... everyone is taking this time to stretch & un-numb their hands, getting the blood flowing to their fingers again. Nat keeps saying "something's going to happen.... Here comes the rain... a torent of water but the log's not moving. Maybe it is broke!! There it goes again....

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 07:41 PM
This rain seems different as the log rolls forward and back, more fine, sheet like, with lightening and more illumination.

Kevin says it was cold rain as BB continues to try to trip them up. Kevin nearly bit it.

Jordan has one hand on top of key and one on teeth. So does Natalie. Kevin has both hands on top of key. ALl three hoodies are up.

log rolling fast backwards. Nat hopping as log stops and reverses and Nat nearly loses it.

All stop.

Jordan almost bought it too.

The log keeps reversing, back and forth.

Natalie looks to be hanging on 4 dear life using the key keep her balance. Kevin facing away from others. Jordan seems in cocoon with her hoodie zipped up

doc5467
09-08-2009, 07:41 PM
that ass Kevin is going to win this segment; his being able to see the mechanism on the side so he knows a second ahead of what's coming is just enough to let him make it. hell!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 07:50 PM
From Morty's Twitter:

Ladies and Gentlefollowers we are now at the 2hr mark.

Kevin seems to be in the zone, Natalie has struggled at times, & Jordan has nearly lost it too. No rain right now, but log rolling quickly backwards.

More cold rain, torrential downpour, lightening, backwards rolling log. Natalie has her hoodie unzipped while Kevin/Jordan are buttoned up tight.

All three 2-handing the key

chooch850
09-08-2009, 07:52 PM
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Shelley
09-08-2009, 07:52 PM
i am amazed. good for them. even though i hate 2/3rds of them...

chooch850
09-08-2009, 07:56 PM
Nataie just spun right around in a circle & didn't fall off!!!

After the rain stops, she asks the others if they saw her almost fall off, saying "That was a close one!"

Now we have trivia....

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 07:57 PM
rain is so hard you can barely see the F3

now stopping. The cams seem a bit fogged up now

someone from production is gonna have to wipe them off

Nat says she almost fell.

Shelley
09-08-2009, 07:57 PM
doc- if kevin can see one side, wouldn't that mean nat could see the other? and could that really be that beneficial?

chooch- unbelievable. maybe she has been throwing everything

doc5467
09-08-2009, 08:00 PM
as I understand it, somehow on s.r.--K's side, the greenery stuff is situated so he can see the mechanics beyond the log, showing him when it stops and turns in reverse, etc. none of the others can, apparently; Nat's side is blocked and J is in the center. several observers have commented on it. might not be helping tho; I really don't know.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 08:03 PM
They are all three wearing gloves, so that has to help.

It is raining crazy hard - like Florida hard.

They all look really miserable.

I guess it's conceivable that Kevin can see the mechanics, but it is covered in greenery, same with Nat's side, and actually Nat is closer to hers. Kevin is staring pretty hard down at it though and Natlalie isn't. She keeps trying to get a look at him , but he is staring down.

Now it's snowing hard. Kevin bends down to rub his leg, maybe using his leg to help get the gloves further on?

He look sover at Nat who is looking over at him. I wonder if they have a signal for "Ok you can jump off"

I hate that Natalie is wearing Jeff's hat and Kevin's hoodie. Ugh.

The log is at a standstill while it snows hard. Kevin keeps rocking back and forth. Jordan has snow stuck to her face. Natalie keeps letting go with one arm - the way she's holding the key I'm amazed she hasn't fallen yet.

Natalie: I think that's enough. I THINK that's enough. I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH>

A few seconds later it stops. UGH. don't give in to her BB.

Jordan looks zoned out - she is flexing her knees while everything is stopped.

Nat: how are you guys doing?

Kev: I'm doing good.

Nat: Did you ever almost fall like me?

Jordan: I almost did

Nat: Twice I almost ate it. I'm afraid to fall, we're so high.

Very hard to hear Jordan. She's very muffled.

doc5467
09-08-2009, 08:03 PM
Nat's out! I...I think...

sorry, seems not. I'm shutting up.

chooch850
09-08-2009, 08:10 PM
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TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 08:11 PM
Nat: We might not get any sleep tonight - lol

Jordan: I know

Kevin is laughing

Nat: What's so funny Kevin?

Kev: This is not what I signed up for. This is a dream.

Natalie gave Jordan a Mentos, then Jordan passed one to Kevin.

Jordan: Those are hard.

Natalie: This is the worst part, standing here, cuz I get cold. I like moving around it keeps my blood circulating.

She's very chatty, the others - not so much. Lots of Mento's noises.

Nat: Can we start the log? I'm getting cold again. I need the blood to circulate.

Kevin: You have a pool to jump into

Nat: I think they are planning something big

K: Like what? throw rocks at us

N: lol. Dude, we had hail.

Kevin puts his hands in his pants - to get them warm?

N: did you just bust out a power bar?

He did.

N: I'm gonna laugh when your ass falls. Please start this thing up BB, show this boy.

K: Want a bite

N: Pass it on over.

K: Bite it throw the wrapper. She does.

She passes it back to Jordan. Is this some evil plan to get her to fall?

Now she's trying to get it - almost takes her hand off the key so Natalie tells her not to and to pass it on to Kevin. She gets more Mentos out to share.

Kevin - eating his power bar wrapper and all.

K: I'm not fuckinga round, I'm gonna be here all night.

J: We all are, we've done this much we aren't gonna quit now.

spike22
09-08-2009, 08:14 PM
or to make sure everything is still there...lol

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 08:16 PM
K: Let me save some for breakfast

N: JOrdan are you going to drop anytime soon

J: no.

(I am getting these as best as I can, since I don't want to rewind and miss action)

N: I want them to start cuz i'm cold. (She sniffles a lot) YOu guys could just fall, you could compete tomorrow. I'm not going anywhere

K: Not me wench

And the rain begins again, hard. JOrdan keeps rubbing her one eye - it's making me nervous.

Oh this is kind of an endurance comp for my fingers. To make it more challenging I have the a/c on cold so my fingers stiffen up. I have some Mentos too. So I might sneak one in on a break.

Rain stops.

K: can I get some warm rain on this side. Are you guys getting cold rain on your side.

N: I'm getting ice at me, like someone is chugging ice at me

K: That was me wench

N: this could be over quick, people need to start falling. And it ain't gonna be me.

OH please God of television - make this motormouth fall down.

WInd starts up with leaves and dirt.

J: Oh great, now we're gonna freeze.

(I toss some trash around my house to get the effect here)

Commercial

chooch850
09-08-2009, 08:20 PM
They are sharing candy!!! Now we can listen to Natalie chonk!!! argh....

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Kevin just pulled out a power bar & they are sharing that. Kevin says he's here for all night. Kevin wants to save some for breakfast.

Natalie tells them to just fall because she's not going anywhere. They can just fight it out tomorrow for phase 2.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 08:21 PM
It's time for America's Vote, vote for anyone but Natalie at: www.cbs.com

And we're back....

Still wind blowing around. Log isn't moving at the mo. Kevin is jiggling his knees and pulling up his pants. That wind part sounds like many leafblowers going at once - yet it is still quieter and more pleasant than hearing Natalie eat licorice. Just sayin.

Everyone and everything quiet for the moment.

Natalie: Why can't they blow money at us?

(they already did)

K: They could blow $100 bills at us

N: Who would take their hand off a key for $100

J: How long do you think we've been up here

N: AN hour and a half. In season 8 when they did the same thing they did it for 9 hours.

J: 9 I thought you said 4!

N: NO, we did Graduation day for 4 hours.

(Please don't let it be 9 hours - I have a meeting tomorrow and need some sleep)

Natalie coughed. Maybe she'll catch pneumonia?

They are all wearing their clique shirts - wonder if that was something BB requested?

It's extra fitting to see Jordan in a shirt that says "Popular" next to these two yo-yo's.

The rain starts and then the log starts - backwards. We have a shoe-eye view from the current camera angle.

Jeff would be so proud of Jordan - sticking it out so long.

Rain stops. Log stops - than starts again - the speed seems to be changing up a little. Ok this shoe angle gets me kinda dizzy.

It's reversing back and forth - and they stumble but get back in line real quick.

And it stopped.

K: Whew!

Lots of heavy breathing. You know pretty soon BB is going to make them pick one hand to use.

kwilli
09-08-2009, 08:35 PM
They all look like they could hang on for hours.....

spike22
09-08-2009, 08:35 PM
FALL GNAT!!! FALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 08:35 PM
Even when it does stop - like now - and the hard rain is stopped - it's always drizzling a bit.

Do you suppose Natalie has a disadvantage since she has smaller monkey rodent hands to grip the key with?

And the log starts again - and stops again.

Jordan has a leaf on her cheek that's bugging me.

Commercial

spike22
09-08-2009, 08:35 PM
ok...i can't take it any more...im going to bed...thanks for the recap and updates Tink!!...you rock!!

spike22
09-08-2009, 08:36 PM
Do you suppose Natalie has a disadvantage since she has smaller monkey rodent hands to grip the key with?

OMG Tink...thank you so much for giving me such a big laugh before bed!!

**edit...wow, that was my 50th post!!...lol**

shantigal
09-08-2009, 08:38 PM
Do you suppose Natalie has a disadvantage since she has smaller monkey rodent hands to grip the key with?

.

Monkey rodent hands :D

Doesn't appear to be a disadvantage. Why doesn't she just fall already?

chooch850
09-08-2009, 08:39 PM
Wow.... Jordan almost went this last round. I can't believe they've lasted this long. I know Natalie wants to quit but I think sh's realizing that the other two aren't going to do as she planned. They are waiting HER out!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 08:40 PM
Congrats on your 50th spike - and sleep well!

And we're back - all three on the log and we can hear *gasp* a production voice! "Games back on"

And then the rain comes - hard. The log is moving a little here, a little there, just a little, very jarring.

Ok - part of the log near Nat's end is coming up - like picture wrapping paper unsticking on a roll. I'm hoping it will trip her.

Downpour stops - log still doing it's off on jolt thing - then it stops too - oh wait - no

Jordan is looking VERY unsteady.

pixielated
09-08-2009, 08:42 PM
I had no idea you were a Method recapper, Tink.

"Jeff would be so proud of her"--sounds like he's dead!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 08:46 PM
I suffer for my art! lol.

OK - it wasn't that Jordan looked unsteady - it was the way the log keeps changing directions made her look wobbly in the close up shot.

I just bobbled in my chair - just to get a feel for some of the action.

OOH Kevin is getting a little tangled in his feet.

Natalie is breathing very hard - or very shallow - you know what i mean.

I think this back and forth herky jerky log just might be the trick.

I tried breathing as hard as Natalie but it just made me light headed so I stopped.

From the foot angle - Jordan's feet look pretty good - pretty sure footed.

Log stopped and Natalie is winded. She glanced at Kevin and rolled her eyes and smiled.

Just then the log jerked - like the producers didn't like her smirk either. Then it stopped.

Now the log is moving backwards in slight little clicks. It's funny that this tiny adjustment has Natalie almost losing it.

We are coming up on 3 hours now.

Natalie's pants have grown a few inches - and are sagging down near the edges of her shoes. I guess all that water stretched them out.

Of the three - she is the most unsteady looking.

The log makes all kinds of clicks and clanks - almost sounds like Ole Smokey is coming for a visit (a little nod to all the Lost fans)

Forecast: Loggy with a chance of rain, lightning and a monkey rodent who will not let go.

All three standing stock still - hands both hands overhead hanging onto their keys for dear life.

N: Hey you guys gave it a good run? Are you ready to drop yet.

K: Ha!

N: It's been about two hours, you have nothing to be ashamed about if you fall

K: I'm going til the sun rises - wench

N: I'm going longer than that so if you are only going til the sun rises you might as well drop now

K: Ok i'll drop when the sun rises then

N: but then it'll be all for nothing

Commercial

doc5467
09-08-2009, 08:49 PM
Tink, I see on Joker--for what that's worth--that Nat has several times been holding the rope above and no hand on the key. once, they said the camera actually zoomed in to show it. did you spot anything like that?

just wishful thinking, maybe...

chooch850
09-08-2009, 08:50 PM
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Does it look like she's holding the rope here?

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kdognatl
09-08-2009, 08:55 PM
Thanks Tink and Chooch! Ya'll are AWESOME!!!!!

doc5467
09-08-2009, 08:56 PM
not to me. they said at 35 or 36 past the hour. probably imagination only...

spike22
09-08-2009, 08:59 PM
Ok...I'm watching bbad and I want to kick gnat...can I? Please?

doc5467
09-08-2009, 09:01 PM
sure, spike. no one would scold you.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Tink, I see on Joker--for what that's worth--that Nat has several times been holding the rope above and no hand on the key. once, they said the camera actually zoomed in to show it. did you spot anything like that?

I HAVE seen that. Maybe Chooch can get a pic of it.

And we're back.

I realllllllllllllly want this to end before BBAD is over.

There's a nice puddle under Natalie - it might even be deep enough to drown a rat. hmmm

nerdatron
09-08-2009, 09:03 PM
http://twitpic.com/h1vky

Proof!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:03 PM
Thanks Nerdatron!

Jordan just did some major yawning. (so did Tink)

Time for the wind machine which causes Natalie to laugh and snort. Now she is mouthing something to Jordan, Kevin has his back to them. Can not tell what is being said.

For how cocky she is being during this competition - she has to fall - right? Isn't that the BB rule of cockiness?

Jordan is wiping more stuff from her eyes. I think all this dirt and debris is getting to her. More yawning.

spike22
09-08-2009, 09:04 PM
Oh what a beautiful thought tink. Lol.

chooch850
09-08-2009, 09:06 PM
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TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:07 PM
Thanks for the pics Chooch.

The way Jordan keeps yawning she's gonna get a mouthful of leaves.

doc5467
09-08-2009, 09:08 PM
http://twitpic.com/h1vky

Proof!

UNBELIEVABLE! Why in hell didn't they stop and throw her off the goddamned log!!??

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:08 PM
Excellent question Doc.

Did Julie say their hands had to be on the key at all times?

Then again - isn't that just like Natalie - to find another opportunity to cheat.

nerdatron
09-08-2009, 09:10 PM
Yeah, one hand has to be on the key at all times.

I'd be surprised if they didn't DQ her.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:11 PM
They should have DQ'd her by now. They've done that to other houseguests at past HOH's. What's taking so long?

In honor of this comp - I have on my Tink hoodie, the hood is up and one ear is sticking out.

Jordan whispering to Natalie again - Kevin still oblivious. Natalie giggles and he turns to look.

kwilli
09-08-2009, 09:13 PM
This is excruciating. If I weren't up packing the first-day-of-school bags and getting outfits ready, I couldn't watch it. But -- for now it's serving as a good background to my work. RATALIE YOU MUST FALL!!!! RATALIE YOU MUST FALL!!!

chooch850
09-08-2009, 09:13 PM
Sorry I couldn't get a picture of Nat's hand on the ropes, but if I don't catch it when it happens, I can't rewind to get it until 2 hours after the fact with BB Reloader.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:14 PM
Surprised at how much Kevin is letting them whisper. He has to hear it. Natalie can't flap her lips without making noise.

That's ok Chooch - Nerdatron shared it with us.

Jordan and Natalie are all smiles and giggles.

Jordan sneezed, Natalie blessed her, Kevin did not. Do Jehovah's witnesses not "bless you"?

Jordan holds up her hand to Natalie - presumably to show blisters. More whispers and laughing.

N: Geeze, lol

J: Who wants to play rock, paper, scissors, to say who goes (she's shivering) I'm so cold

N: KEvin look at me

K: why

N: YOu're fuckin blue

K: No i'm not

J: YOu're always lookin that way - makes me think you are talking to the camera (Or watching the mechanism!)

K: Jordan you look cold

J: I am cold

N: that's what she was just saying

K: If you keep moving your body that'll help, like flex your muscles and stuff.

N: Laughing

J: Look at yours - are yours pruny?

Oh they were comparing prune hands not blisters.

N: I'm sure there's some nice warm towels over there.

MelBell
09-08-2009, 09:18 PM
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/h35.jpg

I thought they had to face forwards...looks like Kevin is standing side-ways. :confused: He's a cheater too! Shocking I know. He should be DQ'd as well.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:19 PM
J: I think it's going to start

Natalie laughing again

Kevin IS Sideways most of the time.

Commercial

The endurance comp just got harder - now I have to go potty. TMI? I lose my edit button this late at night.

And we're back.

nerdatron
09-08-2009, 09:21 PM
Julie never said you had to face forwards. xD

kittkatt
09-08-2009, 09:21 PM
Thanks Chooch and Tink! Ya'll are doing fantastic jobs! Wish I were there to hand ya'll alcoholic beverages and beer nuts and to wipe yourt brows for ya!

chooch850
09-08-2009, 09:21 PM
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/h36.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/h37.jpg

Our Little Cheater.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:22 PM
Ugh I want to wipe that smirk off her.

The rain is back - all three go into their face down pose.

I hear a man's voice - can't tell if it's Kevin or production. If it is Kevin he's not talking to the girls.

OK it is Kev- close up on him and his liips are moving fast, mumbling to himself.

doc5467
09-08-2009, 09:23 PM
ah, the face of an angel! such a sweet li'l gal, ain't she? Is that Jeff's cap on her greeezzzy head?

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:24 PM
It IS - poor ruined cap. Yuck.

Natalie is blowing out - or snorting - something like that.

She has her face down, her lower lip out, she keeps looking up at the others and shaking her head.

Kevin is in some sort of zone.

Rain stopped.

Natalie looks at Jordan and shakes her head. Her arms are shaking and her hand is shaking. Natalie is shivering hard now.

The Log started and Jordan fell off. :(

K: YOu ok?

N: Did it hurt?

J: Not at all

N: Strip and put towels on you, like that one day

J: I'm so cold

Kevin is laughing now - Natalie smiling hard. I am sad as hell.

K: Now it's down to me and you wench.

nerdatron
09-08-2009, 09:29 PM
GG Jordan.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:29 PM
Kevin takes out his powerbar.

N: Please start it now BB, please, this cocky mother fucker

K: All night bitch, all night.

Laughing and chomping.

doc5467
09-08-2009, 09:29 PM
oh. oh. oh.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:30 PM
N: I can go all night too.

Camera is on Kevin.

K: Are you cold?

N: Not really, are you?

K: No. YOu aren't feeling weak?

N: No, are you?

K: NO!

The wall raises so Jordan can go in the house.

N: There you go Jordan.

K: There better not be some pizza in that bitch!

N: Go inside and see what's up in there.

J: There isn't anything

The log starts again

N: they opened that door on purpose Kevin, to throw us off

K: CInco

N: Five minutes. YOu swear on your life?

K: I do

N: This is a fucking crapshoot. She could beat me tomorrow.

J: Bitch isn't beating anyone

N: YOu never know

K: I swear on everything in my life, my man, everything

N: Give it like 15 minutes, she just fell dude, we gotta make it believable

K: Ten

N: You said we could go all night

K: We're shivering

N: I"m not, I'm fine, I'm warm as a bunny

K: My testicles are shivering

N: Fine 10. You realize what I'm giving up. You can't beat me at this. YOu can not beat me at this. I am giving this to you - if you burn me.

K: If i did i woulda kept michelle.

N: this is mine to win

K: I'm not good at the mental shit

N: I know i'm just saying

K: I know!

kittkatt
09-08-2009, 09:31 PM
Nooo!! Now I'm going to bed for some reason I'm starting to get a headache.

chooch850
09-08-2009, 09:32 PM
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/3.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/4.jpg

MelBell
09-08-2009, 09:33 PM
That's too bad for her. This was her only hope to get the 3rd round of the HOH comp. The 2nd round is usually physical & some sort of puzzle combo right? And well she sucks at puzzles. Kevin & Natalie suck.


Kevin is laughing now - Natalie smiling hard. I am sad as hell.


This just pisses me off. errr. :mad:

doc5467
09-08-2009, 09:34 PM
good night all. no point in waiting to see which loser loses. who cares! thanks to Tink and Chooch and others for such a great great service tonight.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:35 PM
N: Who knows what tomorrow will be? This is the only way I can guarantee myself. This is huge

K: We had a day one deal

N: this is proving to you my loyalties

K: I proved mine with Michelle

N: and i proved mine last week with Jeff

K: Bitch don't make me come over and karate chop you

N: COme on

K: Btw, 8 minutes left

N: I love that you say you can do it all night. but you want to stop now

K: I can - but why do it

N: America you see this, if he burns me...

I hate these two

N: Dude, I've endured worse pain then this, my cramps are worse pain than this

K: this is not painful, this is uncomfortable

N: I need to fall down when she comes out

K: Do like you did in S'mores

N: Throw my cup that way

They laugh - wickedly - loathsomely - hatefully - rodentally

N: Now here we go Kevin - almost there.

chooch850
09-08-2009, 09:36 PM
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/5.jpg

Insuring the final 2 deal

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/6.jpg
Jordan's so screwed now....

Who's dropping first? Now I have trivia.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/8.jpg
Jordan brings out towels.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/7.jpg
Thank God it's over.... I didn't get Natalie fake falling.... I didn't care....sorry kids. Jordan will go up against Natalie in pt#2. I'm done now.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:38 PM
N: ALl i gotta do is win tomorrow and then $50,000 guaranteed

Jordan is in the shower.

K: You know they are going to try to get in your head.

Commercial

Once she throws the comp I'm gonna head to bed - I can get the rest of the dialogue tomorrow. It doesn't really matter at this point anymore - does it?

After watching the Dexter commercial - couldn't Natalie meet HIM?

And we're back - Kevin still on the log. So is scuzzybutt.

The log isn't moving, no wind, no rain, no hope.

Sara_Shark
09-08-2009, 09:40 PM
Thanks Tink and Chooch for all the recapping. I am going to bed. I don't care which one of these cheaters wins.

The only small hope I have left is that somehow some way police are at the final show and take Nasty down hard. One can dream.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:41 PM
Night Sara, doc, Mel - everyone I missed.

N: Do I go now before she comes out or what?

K: Not yet.

And the wind starts up again with snow.

N: Kevin. Kevin. KEVIN!

He doesn't hear her. Or is ignoring her.

N: that's like Hail!

I guess BB is going to throw everything at them now.

Jordan - take your sweet time honey, the longer you take, the more torture these idiots have to endure.

MelBell
09-08-2009, 09:44 PM
Night...thanks for the pictures Chooch & the play-by-play Tink...you are both awesome.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:46 PM
Well it's been more than 10 minutes.

The log starts rolling again.

Question for you gasmii: When Natalie comes out to find she is the most hated HG in BB history - will she be upset? Or thrilled? I think she'll love it.

I kinda want Kevin to fall - Natalie to win - BB to see Natalie cheated. Oh wait - then they'd probably let Kevin win it - oh well, it was a thought.

And we are closing in on 4 hours now.

Camera zooms to the sliding door as Jordan comes out.

N: How you feelin?

J: Better

Rain starts - hard.

Time for Natalie's performance.

Log stops - she turns to face Kevin but he doesn't look at her. You know she wants a signal.

Log starts again - she caughs loudly - he still ignores her.

N: Yo Kevin she's inside, Now?

K: Next thing

She jumps

K: You ok

N: Yeh

N: You coming or what?

K: BB don't move the log.

N: What are you doing? Just jump off don't be a pansy.

He walks across the log to the steps and walks down. They hug.

N: Good Job. I'm fine.

K: SO am i, it was just annoying.

N: Alright let's go jump in the shower.

J: Who fell?

N: I did (not sounding at all sad)

J: I told natalie, you weren't going anywhere

Now talk of towels and showers and stuff.

They figure they've been going for 4 hours.

K: Whoa that felt like 20

J: My hand hurt so bad, look at them, they were hurting, I was not paying attention that thing ...eek

I can't transcribe this - I'm tired. Sorry kids - I'll pick it up from here tomorrow.

kwilli
09-08-2009, 09:56 PM
I know Kevin promised Natalie final 2 -- but at this point, what can he do to help her. Isn't it a matter of who wins the 2nd round between Natalie and Jordan?

TinkerbellAPixie
09-08-2009, 09:57 PM
Winner of round 2 goes against Kevin in round 3

Winner of round 3 picks who goes home and who goes to final 2.

Pikey578
09-08-2009, 11:12 PM
Tink... Chooch... you guys are frigging amazing! What would we do without you?

I can only hope that BB will disqualify Natalie for hanging onto the rope and that she gets a time penalty or something that hurts her in the second round...

Sweet dreams everyone!

NYdiva
09-09-2009, 03:23 AM
I can only hope that BB will disqualify Natalie for hanging onto the rope and that she gets a time penalty or something that hurts her in the second round...



BB doesn't enforce the rules with Kevin or Nasty. They're allowed to get away with all sorts of violations... speaking of which, wasn't she wearing the stolen gloves tonight? She should be dq'd for that, too.

I'm resigned to the fact that Kevin will take her to f2. Or vice versa. Sob.

Slumrville
09-09-2009, 05:23 AM
For those of you who wonder what chat is like:

[chooch850] 9:59 pm: want to make wagers on how long this comp lasts?

[TinkerbellAPixie] 9:59 pm: sure - I'll say an hour and 13 minutes

[lrhflute] 9:59 pm: I say 1 1/2 hours TOPS

[shantigal] 10:00 pm: I say Nat out 10 min, total time 34 min.

[2tkings] 10:00 pm: it won't last long...none of the 3 left are really that great of competitors

[2tkings] 10:00 pm: nat will go first

[shantigal] 10:01 pm: What are we wagering for the comp time?

[TinkerbellAPixie] 10:01 pm: winner gets a night of passion with jeff?

[Shelley] 10:01 pm: Im in!

[2tkings] 10:02 pm: i'm in!!!!

[2tkings] 10:02 pm: i wager 1 hour, 18 min.

[lrhflute] 10:02 pm: I wager 1 hour, 30 minutes

[chooch850] 10:03 pm: I bet it's over by the time the feeds come back on. still trivia

[TinkerbellAPixie] 10:04 pm: shelley what was your guess?

[Shelley] 10:04 pm: ummm 103 minutes

[Slumrville] 10:05 pm: I wager 2hrs 10 minutes

So, does this mean that I'm the winner of a night of passion with Jeff?!?!?!?! YAY ME!!!!!!

tee24
09-09-2009, 05:56 AM
So unless there is a miracle Jordan is done. No way she wins 2 comps in a row to win HOH. N v K in the F2 I'd have to go with Kevin. Although depending on how much the "lie" of her being 18 bothers the jury I think Nat may have the votes.
Michelle - Kevin
Jordan - Nat
Jessie - Nat
Lydia Kevin
Russ - ?
Jeff - ? maybe Kevin.
If it comes down to America's vote I think Kevin wins.

shantigal
09-09-2009, 06:37 AM
So, does this mean that I'm the winner of a night of passion with Jeff?!?!?!?! YAY ME!!!!!!

Lord have mercy, that was a marathon last night. Congrats Slumr. Be sure to take pictures and post them here.

Tink - I still laugh out loud when I think of your description of Natalie's monkey rodent hands. :lol:

Thanks again fabulous cappers Tink & Chooch.

Jashba
09-09-2009, 07:35 AM
So Natalie goes to the final two either way, right? That sucks so much. I just hope and pray that she doesn't win.

They do the second comp today, don't they?

TV Cart
09-09-2009, 07:54 AM
Ratalie might not go to the final two, it all depends on if Jordan can win the next 2 comps and then who she chooses.

Obviously, it's doubtful that Jordan can win the next 2 comps.

There's also a possibility that if Kevin wins HOH, he might not take Ratalie to the final 2.

cattyfan
09-09-2009, 08:23 AM
I can't believe TPTB are letting both Kevin and NataLIE cheat. It really destroys the credibility of any of the competitions.

You know, legally we viewers could start a class action suit against CBS for that...because they are misrepresenting what is supposed to be essentially a game show. By allowing rule violations, the network is controlling the outcome of the game...and that's fraudulent. As the "customers," so to speak, we are the ones being defrauded, and therefore have grounds to sue.

switz
09-09-2009, 08:41 AM
I can't believe TPTB are letting both Kevin and NataLIE cheat. It really destroys the credibility of any of the competitions.

You know, legally we viewers could start a class action suit against CBS for that...because they are misrepresenting what is supposed to be essentially a game show. By allowing rule violations, the network is controlling the outcome of the game...and that's fraudulent. As the "customers," so to speak, we are the ones being defrauded, and therefore have grounds to sue.

Let me know how that works out for you...

cattyfan
09-09-2009, 08:47 AM
As a single viewer, I wouldn't get very far. It would need to be, as I stated, as class action suit. If, say, a well-known website filed the papers on behalf of the viewers, it would get both media attention and traction.

Southern_Essence
09-09-2009, 08:48 AM
I can't believe TPTB are letting both Kevin and NataLIE cheat. It really destroys the credibility of any of the competitions.

You know, legally we viewers could start a class action suit against CBS for that...because they are misrepresenting what is supposed to be essentially a game show. By allowing rule violations, the network is controlling the outcome of the game...and that's fraudulent. As the "customers," so to speak, we are the ones being defrauded, and therefore have grounds to sue.

Let me know how that works out for you...

Um...me too. I'll go on with my life in the meantime.

Jashba
09-09-2009, 09:01 AM
Ratalie might not go to the final two, it all depends on if Jordan can win the next 2 comps and then who she chooses.

Obviously, it's doubtful that Jordan can win the next 2 comps.

There's also a possibility that if Kevin wins HOH, he might not take Ratalie to the final 2.

I think that even if Jordan did pull out a miracle and win the next two comps, she would evict Kevin to get revenge for Jeff. Plus Natalie has been working her hard core the last couple weeks, being all buddy-buddy with her.

If Kevin did screw Natalie in the final minutes, that would be (IMO) bigger than Jeff using the coup to get Jesse out. I would cry tears of joy! I would then be okay with him getting the win.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-09-2009, 09:06 AM
LOL Catty - should we all get in together? I bet we could get Jokers and Morty's to join us? hehee

TV Cart
09-09-2009, 09:08 AM
I agree Jash! Jordan could easily pick Natalie.

I would love for Kevin to screw Natalie, but doubtful.

Ideal F2 is Kevin and Jordan. Kevin played a better game.

cattyfan
09-09-2009, 09:58 AM
LOL Catty - should we all get in together? I bet we could get Jokers and Morty's to join us? hehee

It would certainly shoot your websites to the top of the "must-read" list for reality TV fans...

tee24
09-09-2009, 12:25 PM
Kevin deserves to win out of these pewp nuggets. Jordan did nothing, Nat did a bit more than Jordan (but nothing until Jessie left). Kevin at least did something, Jordan and Lydia sent him to start the Russel is trying to get Jeff out deal that Jeff bought like a giant ass-pump.

Pikey578
09-09-2009, 02:58 PM
I asked the following from CBS and will let you know if I hear anything back (but I doubt I will hear anything)

"Why is there no policing of the clear rule violations that have occurred in Big Brother? Natalie and Kevin creating a calendar; Natalie being allowed to steal from the other houseguests (Natalie with Michelle's gloves); cheating at POV ceremonies multiple times (yelling instructions to other players in jungle round is only one example); unfair treatment and downright cheating at HOH ceremonies (ie inability to hear questions due to plane overhead; Natalie holding the rope rather than the key; both Natalie and Kevin facing sideways on the log rather than facing forward as directed); threats of physical harm to other houseguests (putting red dye in Michelle's drink/putting bleach in Jeff's contact solution)?

BB has changed from a game/reality show where people lie, outsmart others to one where the potential winners are cruel and have license to cheat. I know of many people who are threatening to never watch the program again and I, for one, cannot blame them...

I look forward to your reply."

cattyfan
09-09-2009, 03:20 PM
I asked the following from CBS and will let you know if I hear anything back (but I doubt I will hear anything)

"Why is there no policing of the clear rule violations that have occurred in Big Brother? Natalie and Kevin creating a calendar; Natalie being allowed to steal from the other houseguests (Natalie with Michelle's gloves); cheating at POV ceremonies multiple times (yelling instructions to other players in jungle round is only one example); unfair treatment and downright cheating at HOH ceremonies (ie inability to hear questions due to plane overhead; Natalie holding the rope rather than the key; both Natalie and Kevin facing sideways on the log rather than facing forward as directed); threats of physical harm to other houseguests (putting red dye in Michelle's drink/putting bleach in Jeff's contact solution)?

BB has changed from a game/reality show where people lie, outsmart others to one where the potential winners are cruel and have license to cheat. I know of many people who are threatening to never watch the program again and I, for one, cannot blame them...

I look forward to your reply."


Excellent letter...but I'll be shocked if you get a reply.

I used to work for a CBS-owned station, and even as an employee, I never had my questions answered...

chooch850
09-09-2009, 04:09 PM
I think the hate factor this season for Natalie & Kevin is a bit "over the top" but I went back to previous seasons & guess what.... the hate factor for Evel Dick & Danielle, Boogie & Erica & Ivette & Maggie is about the same! How soon we forget. This too shall pass into BB history & we will all be excited when next season comes around. I promise!

I don't think that Natalie hanging on to the rope was cheating. I think it's considered part of the key... kind of a stretch to get her out you guys! I don't think any of the things listed as violations of the rules are true violations. These petty infractions come to the surface every season from people not happy with who may win or does win the game.

Breathe in people... it's only a game!.... & Big Brother producers have always manipulated the houseguests. It's not a big surprise.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-09-2009, 04:13 PM
I agree that BB has always manipulated the houseguests - but I also agree that they were told to hold the key and Natalie was clearly not holding it at one point. I would also think that was a rule violation if Jordan had been the one to only hold the rope. People HAVE been eliminated for things like that in the past.

Shelley
09-09-2009, 06:34 PM
I asked the following from CBS and will let you know if I hear anything back (but I doubt I will hear anything)

"Why is there no policing of the clear rule violations that have occurred in Big Brother? Natalie and Kevin creating a calendar; Natalie being allowed to steal from the other houseguests (Natalie with Michelle's gloves); cheating at POV ceremonies multiple times (yelling instructions to other players in jungle round is only one example); unfair treatment and downright cheating at HOH ceremonies (ie inability to hear questions due to plane overhead; Natalie holding the rope rather than the key; both Natalie and Kevin facing sideways on the log rather than facing forward as directed); threats of physical harm to other houseguests (putting red dye in Michelle's drink/putting bleach in Jeff's contact solution)?

BB has changed from a game/reality show where people lie, outsmart others to one where the potential winners are cruel and have license to cheat. I know of many people who are threatening to never watch the program again and I, for one, cannot blame them...

I look forward to your reply."

Way to go Pikey!! I hope they reply! Don't forget to copy it on here!

Chooch- Evil Dick and his evil daughter were the HG's that have upset me the most in the past...but even at their worst, ED still kind of made me laugh and had some valid points. But I honestly would rather sit in a room with ED and Coach (from Survivor) than to ever have to look at Ratalie again. She takes the cake on my most hated reality personality.

Speaking of cheating and ED, remember the final HOH when he was against Zach and there was a consipiracy that ED was using the mirrors to see Zach's answers?? Nothing ever happened with that, so I doubt anything will happen to Ratlie the Rope hanger on-er!!!

chooch850
09-09-2009, 08:05 PM
Just read this on another site. Makes me wonder if BB told Natalie she looked like a cold tuna when her BF came to visit....

She says she would have been crying if it was outside. But it was such a surprise inside the house, totally unexpected. She didn't know what she could or couldn't talk to him about. She didn't know if she could kiss him. It was very awkward. She hopes she didn't come across as a b*tch on TV when her boyfriend proposed.

At times in her and Jason's relationship, she thought this would never happen.

By the way, BB put a bowling-type game in the backyard for them to practice for Comp #2.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/by2.jpg http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/by1.jpg
Kevin is helping Natalie practice. She jokes that she wouldn't have thrown the first comp if she knew the second one was going to be this dumb luck game.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/jord1.jpg http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/jord2.jpg
Jordan isn't practicing....she's eating & cleaning up the kitchen.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-09-2009, 08:09 PM
Why yes, I am too dumb to figure out how to post a hot pic of Jeff right here.

Hope you don't mind - I took the liberty of sneaking a pic of Jeff into your sig. It's for my own selfish reasons - Now I can see him whenever you post. :wub:

doc5467
09-09-2009, 08:28 PM
Ladies, Ladies! Jeff is just an ad salesman who's temporarily in good shape, right? In ten years he'll be balding and overweight, and not a whit smarter. All flesh is grass.:D

TinkerbellAPixie
09-09-2009, 08:30 PM
He's not just beautiful (drool) but he's also funny - and funny lasts, even when muscles melt off. I don't think there was one night of BBAD that he didn't have me cracking up over something.

chooch850
09-09-2009, 08:36 PM
Did someone say "Funny Jeff"?

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk3/jeff15.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk3/jeff13.jpg

...and back to "Nice Jeff"!

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk3/jeff14.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk3/jeff16.jpg

By the way, these were taken during week #3... before "Mad Jeff" appeared.

doc5467
09-09-2009, 08:37 PM
well...oh, all right. He WAS funny. He said some pretty witty things, I admit. Okay, drool away.

kittkatt
09-09-2009, 09:14 PM
Jeff,Jeff,Jeff....fun to look at,funny as hell,and dumb as a box of rocks. Who could ask for more in a man?(Sigh)

Pikey578
09-09-2009, 11:04 PM
I found this MySpace entry from Evel Dick on another site:

Wednesday, September 09, 2009
Final 3.. The worst final 3 ever? Big CBS Announcement!
Current mood: annoyed
Category: Movies, TV, Celebrities
Big Announcement....

The final three is so fucking horrible this year that they are going to have a triple eviction and tell them all to kill themselves, that they suck, America hates them (except Jordan, but she won't understand anyhow) and that they are replacing them with myself, JP, MB & DR. That way at least someone might watch the final episodes and give a fuck what happens.

But CBS will have something to say today....
Listen for it and watch thurs

chooch850
09-09-2009, 11:52 PM
Michele's interview on EW:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/09/09/big-brother-michele-evicted/

Ah! My Hera
09-10-2009, 04:25 AM
:) I've been watching Big Brother since the season of the X-factor. . .I'm a horrible tv junkie. And i've been a tv gasm lurker for several years. my husband teases me because I reference several of you in conversations i have about my favorite shows. i appreciate all the hard work that goes into all the coverage you supply, and i love it that there is this whole world of people that exist that say all the things that I think when watching these people on the tv.

That said,. . .how many of you wish that all of the cameras in the house would magically reappear in the jury house for the rest of the week?

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 04:38 AM
Welcome to the forums Hera :)

I would LOVE to watch a Jury House show - well with the exception of Jesse and Lydia's bedroom - I'd pass on that.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 04:45 AM
From Julie Chen's EW Blog:
BTW…former Houseguests Mike Boogie (Big Brother 2; Winner, Big Brother All-Stars), Danielle Reyes (Big Brother 3; Big Brother All-Stars), Janelle (Big Brother 6, Big Brother All-Stars) and Evel Dick (Winner, Big Brother will join me LIVE on stage this THURSDAY (Sept. 10) at 8 PM ET to discuss this season of Big Brother…can’t wait!

SweetLuLu
09-10-2009, 06:25 AM
I would LOVE to watch a Jury House show - well with the exception of Jesse and Lydia's bedroom - I'd pass on that.

im with tink! i would DEF love to see whats going on in the jury house minus jesse and lydia.

im curious to know what michelle and russell are up to now that they're back in the same house

Jashba
09-10-2009, 06:48 AM
CBS - scrap the former houseguest's interview (we don't care) and show 30 minutes of life in the jury house, that's what we really want to see!!!

twnpeeks
09-10-2009, 07:28 AM
Hey Gasmii peeps! I was just wondering if anyone knows where the heck did Jeff go??....unless i missed it somehow (not very lickly...oops....Likely i meant) I thought he was goin to the jury house and don't they ALWAYS show them entering it???....curiousity is killing me...

chooch850
09-10-2009, 07:38 AM
Hey Gasmii peeps! I was just wondering if anyone knows where the heck did Jeff go??....unless i missed it somehow (not very lickly...oops....Likely i meant) I thought he was goin to the jury house and don't they ALWAYS show them entering it???....curiousity is killing me...

Julie said on Tuesday's show that we would get to see Jeff enter the jury house on tonight's show, so you haven't missed it.

twnpeeks
09-10-2009, 07:43 AM
Julie said on Tuesday's show that we would get to see Jeff enter the jury house on tonight's show, so you haven't missed it.

Thanks Chooch!

plockeness monster
09-10-2009, 08:49 AM
Just read this on ew.com thread under the story about Michelle. Can't confirm if its true or not...
It was announced on a BB site that All three HG will be in the finale for the money. There will be no 2 or 3 phase to get HOH.
Seems weird since BB gave them the bowling type game.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 09:31 AM
That would be an interesting twist. They've done it on Survivor for a few seasons now so it wouldn't be unprecedented.

Shelley
09-10-2009, 09:33 AM
Hope you don't mind - I took the liberty of sneaking a pic of Jeff into your sig. It's for my own selfish reasons - Now I can see him whenever you post. :wub:


Tink you are the BEST! thanks so much! I saw it and was like WHAT? and then i knew immediatley you must have done it :) Thank you!! So now I can delete the part about me being dumb. Do I need to credit you for the pic? haha

doc- we don't actually think the boy is perfect...we are just crushing on him, and its fun to chat about. Quit harshing our hot boy buzz :) :wub:

msjacqmills
09-10-2009, 09:36 AM
Just read this on ew.com thread under the story about Michelle. Can't confirm if its true or not...
It was announced on a BB site that All three HG will be in the finale for the money. There will be no 2 or 3 phase to get HOH.
Seems weird since BB gave them the bowling type game.

I can't see them doing that - although, it would appease the viewers by giving Natalie less of a chance of winning $500k.

I'm totally on board with seeing what's going on in the jury house. Honestly, the BB house is boring me...for the first time I found myself doing my eyebrows during the show, rather than watching. Even my husband was surprised to see that.

I'm sure Jessie started treating Lydia like crap once a few people were around to witness it. Actually, they should do like Lifetime did with Project Runway and Models of the Runway. Have a 30 minute show dedicated to the jury house. I'd watch that for sure.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 09:36 AM
My pleasure. Actually - I didn't realize until I tried it that I could even do that. Now I might go around sneaking things into people's signatures (or maybe I'll wait til April Fool's day - hee kidding!)

Shelley
09-10-2009, 09:37 AM
I'm so upset I have work tonight and can't watch the episode live!!! I'm going to have to force my mom to text me the happenings!

I think I remember the threads dying down during the last weeks of the season, but it has really dried up in here :)

But don't get me wrong...I don't want to hear anything more about Ratlie or see any pics.

I'm excited about the interviews with former HGs. Can't WAIT to see what ED has to say about these fools! But I still want plenty of jury footage too!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 09:39 AM
I'm sure Jessie started treating Lydia like crap once a few people were around to witness it. Actually, they should do like Lifetime did with Project Runway and Models of the Runway. Have a 30 minute show dedicated to the jury house. I'd watch that for sure.

First of all - love your avatar - what a cute kitty!

If they do go with a final 3 they won't need America to vote to keep from having a tie (since Chima isn't on the jury). So it would solve a few problems.

I also love the idea of a 30 minute after show, I would totally watch that. Can you email Les Moonves with that idea?

One last thing - how did your eyebrows come out?

noody
09-10-2009, 09:43 AM
Welcome to the forums Hera :)

I would LOVE to watch a Jury House show - well with the exception of Jesse and Lydia's bedroom - I'd pass on that.

Shhhhhhhh with the Jessie word, Tink...you'll have Chooch sneaking in yet another pose of him!:sneaky:

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 09:45 AM
Oops!

msjacqmills
09-10-2009, 09:57 AM
First of all - love your avatar - what a cute kitty!

If they do go with a final 3 they won't need America to vote to keep from having a tie (since Chima isn't on the jury). So it would solve a few problems.

I also love the idea of a 30 minute after show, I would totally watch that. Can you email Les Moonves with that idea?

One last thing - how did your eyebrows come out?

Thanks for the compliment on my kitty - his name is Leopold, and he is MY BABY (of course, I have 3 children - but Leo is my pride and joy). And, in that pic he is on my dashboard on the way to work with me - having his way with my Yoda bobblehead. Can you tell he is MY BABY!?

Even with a final 3, mathematically they could still have a tie and need America's vote. But, then again if it's still a 2-way tie with Kevin and Nat-and, then America's vote is for Jordan (which it will be) - I guess they'd have to take America's 2nd place vote. Ugh - it's too much thinking. Screw it.

And, as for my eyebrows - as a gal who grew up with a unibrow, and a mom and big sister who didn't intervene in a socially conscious way - I am now OBSESSED with well manicured brows. Not just my own...my poor husband has had to hear me agonize over Michelle's pathetic brows all season. Along with my commentary on everyone else's brows, good and bad. It's a sickness.

Enough about me. :blushing:

Sara_Shark
09-10-2009, 10:00 AM
My pleasure. Actually - I didn't realize until I tried it that I could even do that. Now I might go around sneaking things into people's signatures (or maybe I'll wait til April Fool's day - hee kidding!)

Tink, you can sneak pictures into my thingamabob any day. I don't know how to do it either.

Fantasy ANTM?

shantigal
09-10-2009, 10:07 AM
Thought you guys might want to add your 2 cents to this question posted on B-Side Blog. Who is the worst BB house guest of all time?

Someone on there made a really good point that if each season was full of Jeffs and Jordans it would be soooo boring. We need the villians to feed our need for a HG to hate on.

http://www.bsideblog.com/2009/09/question-for-the-masses-who-is.php

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 10:14 AM
Great interview with Allison Grodner:

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/whoa-brother-exclusive-details-final-evictionand-contest_6715

msjacqmills
09-10-2009, 10:21 AM
Thought you guys might want to add your 2 cents to this question posted on B-Side Blog. Who is the worst BB house guest of all time?

Someone on there made a really good point that if each season was full of Jeffs and Jordans it would be soooo boring. We need the villians to feed our need for a HG to hate on.

http://www.bsideblog.com/2009/09/question-for-the-masses-who-is.php

Well, poo - I tried to leave a comment and I couldn't get it to post. Here's what I said

Man, I never realized how many houseguests were soooo awful. I've hated so many!

Evil Dick will always be the worst - for his abusive behavior, threatening of bodily harm - and, I will never forget - BURNING JEN WITH A CIGARETTE. Not to mention, he was just plain GROSS. BTW - I never noticed the mom jeans, but that was dead on.

Let's not forget Jerry from last season. The old man who the producers wanted everyone to love - but, live feed watchers knew was a hateful, woman hating, PIG of a man. Ugh!

msjacqmills
09-10-2009, 10:22 AM
Does anyone have the link for Michelle's interview with Ross? I can't find it.

TV Cart
09-10-2009, 10:30 AM
Here it is:

http://www.theinsider.com/obsessions/Inside%20Dish%20with%20Ross%20Mathews/videos/2826690_Big_Brother_Edition_Michele?ppager=1

doc5467
09-10-2009, 10:34 AM
doc- we don't actually think the boy is perfect...we are just crushing on him, and its fun to chat about. Quit harshing our hot boy buzz :) :wub:

Hey, I did! I gave full permission to drool away. (There just weren't any Jeffette-class ladies in this group for us to crush on, really, so it's just unfair to the boys! Wah, Wah!) ;)

Tink, thanks for that link to the AG interview. really interesting. she thinks the two worst decisions of the game were Jeff's believing Nat and Kevin about Russ, and Kevin tossing out Michelle. Hard to argue with that.

I still don't get the stuff about the supposed changes. Are they saying the F3 will all compete for HOH, or the F3 will all compete for the jury vote for the 500K? I'm confused.....

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 11:07 AM
I've read it from two places two different ways.

1) They all three go to the jury vote

and / or

2) the next person will be evicted before the jury vote, will not have had the chance to go to the jury house or ask a juror question (which sucks) and THEN the jury (including this new evictee) will vote on the final 2

It'll be interesting to see which way it goes.

doc5467
09-10-2009, 11:08 AM
wow. any precedent for either of these in earlier seasons?

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 11:10 AM
Nope - but they can always fall back on the "expect the unexpected" line.

Plus, like I said earlier, Survivor changed to a final 3 format a few seasons ago - so this wouldn't be the first show to change from a final 2 to a final 3.

Jashba
09-10-2009, 11:32 AM
I hope they let them all go to the jury vote, and don't just cut someone at the beginning of Tuesday's show. I want Jordan to take it and screw those two yahoo's out of all that money!

TV Cart
09-10-2009, 11:37 AM
But I believe they decided to have a final 3 before the season began. I don't think they changed it part way through. And they since have gone back to final 2. Wouldn't they then have to pay the 3rd place person more than the fan favorite but less than the 2nd place person?

It's been on trivia almost 2 hours. And I think it was an HOH lockdown?

It would suck if the last juror member couldn't go to the jury house. That wouldn't be fair. They've always had the last 2 people in the house by themselves for like 2 days. Everyone else has had a chance to say what's been going on.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 12:15 PM
It would suck if the last juror member couldn't go to the jury house. That wouldn't be fair.

Plus, I love to hear what questions they pose to the jury. We will now be one less. Bummer.

Wonder if this will be a bitter jury? Do you think Lydia will win for most wacky question?

SweetLuLu
09-10-2009, 12:22 PM
OMG :blink:IM SO CONFUSED!!!!! :helpsmilie: lol.

itchy
09-10-2009, 12:55 PM
Hey, I did! I gave full permission to drool away. (There just weren't any Jeffette-class ladies in this group for us to crush on, really, so it's just unfair to the boys! Wah, Wah!) ;)

Yeah, where's Janelle when you need her?

doc5467
09-10-2009, 01:02 PM
Janelle...ah, Janelle....Let's see, was she funny or witty or smart or anything? those details have escaped me. Janelle...

angiemarie
09-10-2009, 01:39 PM
Plus, I love to hear what questions they pose to the jury. We will now be one less. Bummer.

Wonder if this will be a bitter jury? Do you think Lydia will win for most wacky question?


Aren't they always? :rolleyes:

msjacqmills
09-10-2009, 01:59 PM
Aren't they always? :rolleyes:

Yep - that's the difference between BB jury and Survivor jury. BB's are a bunch of petty babies, Survivor's TYPICALLY use more common sense and game play.

I'm reaally hoping that Kevin has the common sense to take Jordan with him to final 2. I would LOVE to see Natalie get kicked out. Plus, Kevin must know that he has a better chance at the $500k with Jordan than with Natalie...the jury is stacked with her buddies.

He's played the best game - has been the least irritating and disgusting - I hope he wins.

pixielated
09-10-2009, 04:01 PM
Keep in mind, Jeff lovers, that the person in the house now who is responsible for Jeffy NOT being there is our little Jordan.

Southern_Essence
09-10-2009, 04:11 PM
<---- Most certainly a Jeff lover....and I agree. Jordon really stagnated Jeff's gameplay.

They do make a beautiful couple, though, and I hope they continue their romance outside the house.

noody
09-10-2009, 04:59 PM
OMG!!!! Yay Jordan!!!!!! I almost cried when she did soooooo good!!!!! ~WOOT!~

doc5467
09-10-2009, 05:00 PM
Li'l Jordie kicked ass!!

shantigal
09-10-2009, 05:02 PM
She did indeed! Way to go Jordo.

What's the Gnat's excuse for this one?

And doc - you got to see your Janelle. A good night all around.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 05:07 PM
YAY! I'm so happy she SMOKED her!

And whiny crybaby Nat was looking for sympathy from Julie and got NONE!

Jeff looked GOOD in his black wifebeater and he handled himself well in the face of Lydia's cackling.

LOVE that the jury hates Natalie.

And Chooch - Jesse didn't look half bad with the facial hair.

doc5467
09-10-2009, 05:22 PM
Janelle looked really good, didn't she?

did you notice the show closed out with Gnat feverishly explaining in agonizing detail exactly why she lost? Good god, that cretin gift just keeps on giving.

NYdiva
09-10-2009, 05:25 PM
Could someone please tell me what happened. I couldn't bear to watch Jordan lost to Natalie.... (oh me of little faith!)

And where was Janelle?

I take it all 3 are still in the house? Did Julie explain what's next?

Classy Drunk
09-10-2009, 05:28 PM
Yay!!! Nasty is gone!!!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 05:34 PM
NYDiva - you totally need to watch this on CBS.com later. It was a great episode.

Jordan won part 2 of HOH - and she killed it!

doc5467
09-10-2009, 05:38 PM
Yay!!! Nasty is gone!!!

I wish. she's lost on HOH, but either one of the other two could opt to take her to F2--both have promised her they would. (and if they had a clue how disliked she now is by everyone in the JH, they'd be crazy not to take her.)

bubbles
09-10-2009, 05:42 PM
I've been lurking here every day, all season long! I just wanted to say THANK YOU SO MUCH to all of you who have kept everyone without feeds in the loop, Giff, Chooch, Tink, et al. - I know it's a lot of work, and I appreciate all of you!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

kittkatt
09-10-2009, 05:52 PM
Yay jordan!! Wait jessi had facial hair?(Rewinding dvr)guess I had an ADD moments(or I was mezmerized by jeff and russell)anyway how'd ya'll like the look on lydias face when jessi said he would respect natalie as a woman? Sucks when your not the one getting respected but the one with a bad taste in your mouth(if you know what I mean) huh lydia?

msjacqmills
09-10-2009, 07:09 PM
Yay Jordan!!! That was soooo satisfying, seeing her beat Natalie's rearend. YES!!! :thumbup:

I missed Jesse's facial hair, and how good Janelle looked (I heard every word though) - I was doing my eyebrows - it's a sickness. :D

cattyfan
09-10-2009, 07:29 PM
And whiny crybaby Nat was looking for sympathy from Julie and got NONE!




Not only did she get NONE, Julie made sure to emphasize the game had been BOTH mental AND physical...and Natalie lost on both counts LOL!!!


Go, Jordan!!!

And NataLIE is looking for all kinds of excuses why she lost. Blah, blah, blah.

chooch850
09-10-2009, 08:01 PM
Yes Tink... loved Jessie's new look. I also liked Russell's unshaved face & head. I had a feeling he wouldn't stay clean shaven. I loved seeing everyone & wanted to stay at the jury house instead of going back to the studio. The panel of 4 BB alumni was a real bore & very disappointing. Julie's questions were LAME!!

I don't understand what happened tonight. Since Jordan won, who would have been evicted?? They still have one more comp so why did the HG's think one of them was going home tonight & they packed?

Stealtheye
09-10-2009, 08:01 PM
I just wanted to say THANK YOU SO MUCH to all of you who have kept everyone without feeds in the loop, Giff, Chooch, Tink, et al. - I know it's a lot of work, and I appreciate all of you!! :thumbup: :thumbup:


I absolutely second this. Words can't really express how much it helps to have your collective insight.

Thanks again for another wonderful season.

:thumbup:

Oh, and Tink, BOOMER SOONER!!!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 08:03 PM
I'm super tired tonight - but I'll give you the first few minutes of BBAD - just to see if Natalie is still whining and crying.

They are eating a fancy dinner -floral centerpiece, champagne and all. I guess this is a final 3 celebration?

Kevin: so now we know it was the Jeff and Jordan show

N: We knew that already it was just confirmed

Jordan must be in the DR.

N: And that's how it's going to be at the finally - the jordan show

She's whispering a lot - and I am too tired to try to hear it.

N: Not only do you have to choose me, cuz we have a deal, but if you want a shot you better choose me.

K: I know

N: But you are right?

K: Stop it, ugh, if that's the next 5 days I'm gonna ignore you

N: That's how it is, that's just how it is.

K: it's like a chocolate rice krispie crust

Jordan in the bathroom - coming back to the kitchen.

J: I just had the worst diarhea

they laugh

J: did none of that get to you?

JORDAN PLEASE COME TO THE DIARY ROOM

J: I wanna eat my cake!

Ok - I can't stay up for this - too tired. I can fill in tomorrow.

Sara_Shark
09-10-2009, 08:04 PM
WAHOOOO JORDAN! Now I am going to have to watch the finale, there is a chance Jordan could take it home...

Does anyone care to guess what the final competition will be?

TinkerbellAPixie
09-10-2009, 08:06 PM
I don't understand what happened tonight. Since Jordan won, who would have been evicted?? They still have one more comp so why did the HG's think one of them was going home tonight & they packed?

They had to make them pack - just to keep them thinking it was business as usual so they'd be surprised when they heard the twist.

Jordan and Kevin still have to compete in round 3, which will air live on Tuesday instead of tonight like usual. Tuesday will be busy than - with that comp, then the eviction, the jury questions and jury vote.


:thumbup:

Oh, and Tink, BOOMER SOONER!!!

BOOMER SOONER BABY!


Sara - the final comp usually has footage from the jury in the jury house saying something. Then the 2 competing have to guess what they said next. For example:

Did Jesse say (A) "I really did think I could win this time around" or (B) "I was surprised I made it that far cuz I had a huge target on my back"

And at the end of 5 questions (since there are only 5 jurors right now) the person with the highest score wins. The winner then picks one person to take to final 2 and the other is evicted live.

chooch850
09-10-2009, 08:16 PM
Got it now Tink... Keeping the 3 of them together till Tuesday can't give any of them the advantage of working on the jury & possibly changing some of their minds on who should win. there's been alot of truth telling by these three, if you want to call it that.

I checked in long enough to see that Kevin & Natalie are both working on Jordan. When Kevin was called to the DR, Natalie almost ponced on Jordan to tell her not to believe anything Kevin tells her. When Kevin came out & natalie went into the DR, Kevin took the opporunity to answer Jordan's questions about his promise to take her to the final 2. He said he made up his mind when Natalie dumped playing the VETO comp for his safety after putting him on the block.

HandyManda
09-10-2009, 09:12 PM
What in blue hell is going on on AD. I flipped over a little bit ago, and Gnat and Kevin are sitting on the living room couches going over every thing they've done starting with the Russell lie. They weren't shishpering, they were talking in normal tones. It was pretty much a biography of everything they have done the last few weeks, with a generous sprinkle of how great they think they are. Less than a minute after they switch to something else (Jerry from last season), Jordan comes out of the DR. Geez, staged much????

From what it sounds like, DR told them something that they aren't supposed to discuss amongst themselves, I got the impression it was so nothing was said on the feeds. I could be wrong since I didn't start watching at the beginning.

I hope someone else is catching all this.

chooch850
09-10-2009, 09:37 PM
Yes, BB asked them to sit around and reminice about all the past history of the house. This is obviously for the show on Sunday, so that they can edit in all these moments into them talking about it. I'm sure they sent Jordan to the DR so Kevin & Natalie could talk freely about their evil doings. The clip show should be interesting.

I've got the feeds on now & I'm listening to the three of them sitting around the hot tub trying to figure out just how everything will go down on Tuesday. They can't figure out why the show is going to be 2-hours long.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/jord3.jpg http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/kev1.jpg

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/knat1.jpg http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/nat1.jpg

HandyManda
09-10-2009, 09:48 PM
Is that something they normally have them do? It just sounded so....fake. They were having to just "talk" about other HG's in a safe-for-tv manner. I bet that was excrutiatingly painful for them. I'm not sure they know how to talk about anyone without it being a hate-filled rant. I would have liked to hear their DR instructions on that, I'm sure it was drilled into their heads to not be profane.

Speaking of hate-filled rants...I'm gonna step off my soap box and go to bed for the night, lol.

shantigal
09-10-2009, 09:51 PM
Don't forget to vote America. You are the 7th jury member.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_brother/interact/americas_vote/

You can vote as many times as you want.

Sara_Shark
09-10-2009, 10:34 PM
Hey Everyone - so I caught a few moments of BBAD and something was said that blew my mind.
J, K, and Nasty were all sitting around the hot tub and Nasty made the following comments:
(1) The ONLY reason she didn't win the "Wizard Power" (I'm too tired to look up the proper spelling of the Latin phrase) was because her association with Jesse, that America still likes her.
(2) Both K and Nasty said they would hate to be labeled as this seasons Douche Bag.
(3) Both felt that the "villain character" would be edited as Russell.

All in all, this says to me that K and Nasty are delusional. K has treated some people in the house (Michele *shout out to Doc*) horribly and done some things that I thought were unnecessary, however he showers and is not as easy to hate as Nasty. Although he should know that his affiliation with someone of her character would impugn his character along the way.

On the other hand, I honestly think that Nasty suffers from some sort of psychological disorder such as grandiose delusions. The girl HONESTLY thinks that America loves her and that she has behaved honorably in the house... There are no words... Ok I lie, there are words, but I will leave that to the imagination.

Ah! My Hera
09-11-2009, 01:46 AM
Don't forget to vote America. You are the 7th jury member.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/big_brother/interact/americas_vote/

You can vote as many times as you want.

lol. . I went to go vote but it won't let me because I refuse to choose who should get the money between kevin and she-who-should-never-again-be-mentioned. They are both so repulsive. So I'm now not allowed to be the seventh juror. Oh well. . . i didn't really care if Jordan got the money either. . .she was so quick to listen to them and get rid of R & M earlier. urgh. :) It would be fun if we could write in votes like back in high school. They all act like they're adolescent . . .why can't we?

IsabellaTheCat
09-11-2009, 02:30 AM
Hey Everyone - so I caught a few moments of BBAD and something was said that blew my mind.
J, K, and Nasty were all sitting around the hot tub and Nasty made the following comments:
(1) The ONLY reason she didn't win the "Wizard Power" (I'm too tired to look up the proper spelling of the Latin phrase) was because her association with Jesse, that America still likes her.
(2) Both K and Nasty said they would hate to be labeled as this seasons Douche Bag.
(3) Both felt that the "villain character" would be edited as Russell.

All in all, this says to me that K and Nasty are delusional. K has treated some people in the house (Michele *shout out to Doc*) horribly and done some things that I thought were unnecessary, however he showers and is not as easy to hate as Nasty. Although he should know that his affiliation with someone of her character would impugn his character along the way.

On the other hand, I honestly think that Nasty suffers from some sort of psychological disorder such as grandiose delusions. The girl HONESTLY thinks that America loves her and that she has behaved honorably in the house... There are no words... Ok I lie, there are words, but I will leave that to the imagination.

She does think she is honorable! On the night that Michelle was evicted Julie interviewed Nat in the HOH room. She began by saying "Well Natalie, you've told a lot of lies....." and you could see Natalie actually jump and look startled at being called out. Maybe she thinks no one watches the feeds or she really thinks that she's been playing an honest game.

For some reason Kevin thinks no one has been watching the feeds. Last night he told Nat that they had to stop trash talking Jeff and start being nicer to Jordan so that America wouldn't have a bad opinion of them. (Too little, too late!)

Although I have always been a Russ fan, I used to like Kevin too, but the constant use of the word bitch for every female he discusses really disgusts me. (and Tink, please feel free to put a pic of Russ in my siggy line, I've been a member for years but I don't post much. I will if I could see his pic there!)

itchy
09-11-2009, 03:37 AM
The problem with Kevin is he's revealed himself to be as much of a nasty pig as Ratso. Maybe it's "cuter" because he does it with all those fey stereotypical gay mannerisms?

But in his own way, he's even more hateful. I can sort of understand where Ratso's coming from, since she's a complete and absolute idiot. But Kevin appears intelligent enough that he should know better.

A question: why would anyone pay to text their vote in when you can vote multiple times for free on the web site (even if you're not in the States, too)?

Chrissie
09-11-2009, 03:55 AM
OMG!!!! Yay Jordan!!!!!! I almost cried when she did soooooo good!!!!! ~WOOT!~

natalie and her excuses were sad and laughable, wish Jordan said I had one go in the wrong hole also, wasn't that hard to continue plus J's time was better than Ns

Chrissie
09-11-2009, 04:01 AM
I don't understand what happened tonight. Since Jordan won, who would have been evicted?? They still have one more comp so why did the HG's think one of them was going home tonight & they packed?

I think they were thinking both part 2 and part 3 were going to be played, HoH crowned and a live eviction.

Barbie071979
09-11-2009, 06:09 AM
BWAHAHAHA, I loved last nights episode!!! Natalie looked so pathetic making excuse after excuse about why she lost. Julie totally shut her down, "it was mental and physical..." (so STFU!!) =) I hope Kevin keeps his diary room word and gives Nastalie the boot. I can't wait to see her face when he stabs her in the back and she goes home with nothing and America hating her!!! BWAHAHAHA!!!!!

Shelley
09-11-2009, 06:10 AM
Janelle...ah, Janelle....Let's see, was she funny or witty or smart or anything? those details have escaped me. Janelle...

Janelle was very beautiful and VERY witty. As mentioned many times here at TVGasm, her "bye bye bitches" moment is still the best moment in BB history!!! Her diary rooms were pretty good and her and Howie were always pretty funny together. I think we all just lost a tiny bit of love for her when she allowed herself to get played by Dr. Will in All-Stars.

FWIW- 2nd best moment in BB history...all of Dr. Will and Boogie's DR "phone calls". If i was smart enough to link, there is a great youtube video of most of them compiled :)

I think it is totally ridiculous that the last jury member won't really have time to relax, reflect on the season, or get to talk to the other jury members before the vote. It is a huge disadvantage (thinking that kevin or jordon won't know how much nat is hated).

Hopefully Jordon wins the last HOH and boots Kevin so she can win against Natalie. But for all she knows right now, the jury all still loves that bitch. I'm just hoping she hears our esp and takes Nat instead of Kev.

Kev will win against either.

tee24
09-11-2009, 06:25 AM
Kevin has it made in the shade. Jordan will have Jeff's vote, but that's about it (maybe America's too). The jury house has turned on Nat. Jeff's reaction to Nat's lie was good though "it didn't help her" cause in reality being 18 or her real age didn't really come into play.

chooch850
09-11-2009, 06:58 AM
Here's something to brighten your day....

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http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t158/chooch850/BB11%20wk10/jeff2.jpg

IsabellaTheCat
09-11-2009, 07:13 AM
Awwww..thanks Chooch! I'm in NYC and it's 9/11 so it's sad for us here today. Thanks for the pick-me-up.

Slumrville
09-11-2009, 07:14 AM
Kevin has it made in the shade. Jordan will have Jeff's vote, but that's about it (maybe America's too). The jury house has turned on Nat. Jeff's reaction to Nat's lie was good though "it didn't help her" cause in reality being 18 or her real age didn't really come into play.

I disagree. I think Jordan will likely get Michelle's vote over either Natalie for sure, and possibly over Kevin. So assuming that Jeff, Michelle, and America vote for Jordan, it'll depend on how the others view Jordan in relation to the others.

Jordan was primarily a floater, but she did win a POV, and there were several comps where she was competitive. Everyone knows that Natalie won NOTHING other than the HOH where she got rid of Michelle. Still, it'll be clear that it was a 3 way tie, and she got lucky to win that. Furthermore, if Jordan wins HOH on Tuesday, how can you deny her tenacity and ability in overcome some seeminly insurmountable obstacles to set herself up for the win without any help whatsoever. It won't erase the floater label, but it'll make a difference in the minds of the Jury members, I think.

I can't see Jessie or Lydia ever voting for Jordan, but you never know. And there's always the possibility that Russell could come through for her.

Clearly, I'm on Team Jordan at this point!!! But really, as long as RATaLIE gets the boot, I'll be satisfied with the outcome of this season.

IsabellaTheCat
09-11-2009, 07:18 AM
Hey! How did the Wonderful Wizard of Hot get into my sig line? Whoever is responsible...thank you, thank you, thank you!

rao611
09-11-2009, 07:42 AM
I'm so proud of Jordo!!! She kept her calm and I was really happy that Natalie struggled as much as she did. She kept saying how she would beat Kevin at the log comp- when we all know she wouldn't - and this was something she could have won vs Joran if she'd kept her calm. She was cocky and overconfident and it bit her in the a**. I'm thrilled for Jordan and she was very modest when Julie told her she won. I was more excited than she was!!! I honestly think Kevin will take Jordan - and Jordo will take Kevin.

Also - line of the night, "Guess again Yo-Yo's!!!" Jeff is great and seemed very gracious in entering the jury house. :wub:

plockeness monster
09-11-2009, 07:46 AM
Last night, I loved when Nappy said something about how the "Heads Will Roll" was all mental, and Julie so wonderfully reminded her that it was mental and PHYSICAL. I was laughing my booty off. She reminded me of a mom scolding her child.

cattyfan
09-11-2009, 07:48 AM
Awwww..thanks Chooch! I'm in NYC and it's 9/11 so it's sad for us here today. Thanks for the pick-me-up.

That grief is not the sole province of NYC. That attack was on the entire country...and it's a sad day for us all.

plockeness monster
09-11-2009, 07:57 AM
Awwww..thanks Chooch! I'm in NYC and it's 9/11 so it's sad for us here today. Thanks for the pick-me-up.

Im thinking about y'all Isabella!!! Forever in our hearts!

YAY JORDY!!!! Of course, I was screaming at the tv, "Go Jordy GO!"
I really dispise Nappy. I have never wanted to punch someone throught the t.v. so bad!!

Southern_Essence
09-11-2009, 08:06 AM
Although I still think Jordan can't win against Kevin, I still want a K/J f2. It would be PRICELESS to see the look on Nastalie's ugly little monkey face when Kevin evicts her. It's sooooo time for her to get a taste of her own medicine.

msjacqmills
09-11-2009, 08:18 AM
Although I still think Jordan can't win against Kevin, I still want a K/J f2. It would be PRICELESS to see the look on Nastalie's ugly little monkey face when Kevin evicts her. It's sooooo time for her to get a taste of her own medicine.

Aaahhh yes! I hope hope HOPE that Kevin sticks with his DR plan and gives Natalie the boot - OOOHHH...that would be DELICIOUS!

So, what did Julie say is happening on Sunday night? From what I remember, there's no show Sunday, is that right? We have to wait until Tuesday?

tee24
09-11-2009, 08:21 AM
Jordan was primarily a floater, but she did win a POV, and there were several comps where she was competitive. Everyone knows that Natalie won NOTHING other than the HOH where she got rid of Michelle.

Furthermore, if Jordan wins HOH on Tuesday, how can you deny her tenacity and ability in overcome some seeminly insurmountable obstacles to set herself up for the win without any help whatsoever. It won't erase the floater label, but it'll make a difference in the minds of the Jury members, I think.

I can't see Jessie or Lydia ever voting for Jordan, but you never know. And there's always the possibility that Russell could come through for her.

Clearly, I'm on Team Jordan at this point!!! But really, as long as RATaLIE gets the boot, I'll be satisfied with the outcome of this season.
I said Kevin has it made. Last night the jury house said they were impressed with Kevin. Jeff sees his eviction as something Kevin did. He knows Kevin got him to move on Russ.
If if came down to Jordan v Nat, then yeah Jordan would have a chance.
Please don't say Jordan won a POV so she did something, cause of the 3 in the house she has done the least, she cruised on by behind Jeff. She never made a move, she never influenced a vote (unless telling Jeff she agreed with getting rid of Russ was smart-which it wasn't).
I would rather her if it were a final 2 of Nat and her, but Kevin has this in the bag if he gets to the final 2.

spike22
09-11-2009, 08:23 AM
Sunday will be "never before seen clips" both funny and something else...so, no REAL show Sunday...

tee24
09-11-2009, 08:24 AM
Aaahhh yes! I hope hope HOPE that Kevin sticks with his DR plan and gives Natalie the boot - OOOHHH...that would be DELICIOUS!

So, what did Julie say is happening on Sunday night? From what I remember, there's no show Sunday, is that right? We have to wait until Tuesday?
No live show on Sunday, just clips.

I hope Kevin boots Nat, it would make the most sense for him. He doesn't know the jury house doesn't like her. He saw her leave him locked in the box to go get more money, and she took seeing her BF over helping him in POV when POV was most powerful.

SweetLuLu
09-11-2009, 08:26 AM
Although I still think Jordan can't win against Kevin, I still want a K/J f2. It would be PRICELESS to see the look on Nastalie's ugly little monkey face when Kevin evicts her. It's sooooo time for her to get a taste of her own medicine.

I think if the jury house finds out that Jordan actually MADE it to F2...they just might vote for her, just for the hell of it. lol I was SOO happy to watch her compete on Thursday and win! It made me smile

itchy
09-11-2009, 08:31 AM
At this point, likeability becomes part of the equation -- Jordan doesn't really have any enemies. The others might just despise those other two more.

But so far Kevin has backslid from pretty much every 'controversial' decision he's had to make. He's a wuss. He'll keep Ratso, you'll see. Jordan's only hope is to win.

noody
09-11-2009, 08:34 AM
I think if the jury house finds out that Jordan actually MADE it to F2...they just might vote for her, just for the hell of it. lol I was SOO happy to watch her compete on Thursday and win! It made me smile

I must admit I was a little bit nervous when Julie was explaining the game to Jordan...She still looked sad and like her heart really wasnt into it...But the she started rolling them heads and with such good accuracy....WOOT! She pulled it off!!! I was sooooooooooooo proud of her....Now I'm just praying that if she somehow happens to win the final competiton, that she doesnt let Natalie suck her in like she has before in the past...At this point, I really think Kevin would be the best win in that competition as long as he sticks to what he said in the DR...He knows more on how Natalie has lied because he was part of it all...and with Natalie not having his back on the POV....fingers crossed that his trust is really broken and it will be Kevin and Jordan for the win:thumbup:

doc5467
09-11-2009, 08:38 AM
I would rather her if it were a final 2 of Nat and her, but Kevin has this in the bag if he gets to the final 2.

I'm not that sure. I would expect Jordan to get Jeff and Michelle for certain, and almost as certainly the America vote. That's 3 of the 4 needed. Lydia and Jessie would vote for Kevin; probably Russell as well because of the rotten stuff Jordan said in her last message--but that's by no means certain. Russ might vote for her. That leaves the Nat herself in this "scenarial." If Kevin dumped her, she would definitely vote for Jordan. So, the way I count it--for Jordan, 4--Jeff, Michelle, Nat, and America's Vote. Possibly even 5, re Russ.

I think Kevin is going home with either nothing at all, or 50K. And that's peachy with me.

gsensel
09-11-2009, 08:42 AM
I think if it is K/J it will probably be a tie. If Kevin is stupid and takes gnat he would still win based on how the jury house is acting, and same if J takes gnat.

doc5467
09-11-2009, 08:45 AM
But so far Kevin has backslid from pretty much every 'controversial' decision he's had to make. He's a wuss. He'll keep Ratso, you'll see. Jordan's only hope is to win.

I'm of this mind also. I'll be very surprised if he takes Jordan and ejects Nat. He won't. He loves messing with the DR bits to mislead BB and watchers both; he's said so more than once. and, he's a wuss. He means to take Nat and he will. So Jordan needs to tromp his lying butt in part 3.

TV Cart
09-11-2009, 08:48 AM
I wonder if the jury will get to watch the final HOH, seeing that Jordan won the 2nd comp. If she is in the final 2, they might not know if she actually won HOH (doubtful) or was picked to go to the final. That could make a difference if she is up against Rat, considering how the jury feels about her now. Do think that most likely Kevin will take it all.

Southern_Essence
09-11-2009, 09:47 AM
You just never know how a jury member will vote. They either vote for who they think played the best game, or who burned them less or who they just liked more as a person.

My Guess: Jesse will most likely give his to Nasty no matter who she is up against if she is in f2 ....Lydiot probably wouldn't vote for Nasty no matter what...and Jeff and Michelle would vote for Jordan if she is in f2 against either of the other 2 scumbags...errr...opponents. Russell and whomever is voted out last are a crapshoot, I think.

Slumrville
09-11-2009, 09:53 AM
I said Kevin has it made. Last night the jury house said they were impressed with Kevin. Jeff sees his eviction as something Kevin did. He knows Kevin got him to move on Russ.
If if came down to Jordan v Nat, then yeah Jordan would have a chance.
Please don't say Jordan won a POV so she did something, cause of the 3 in the house she has done the least, she cruised on by behind Jeff. She never made a move, she never influenced a vote (unless telling Jeff she agreed with getting rid of Russ was smart-which it wasn't).
I would rather her if it were a final 2 of Nat and her, but Kevin has this in the bag if he gets to the final 2.

You choose to look at it as Jordan doing nothing except riding Jeff's coat tails, and I'm not disagreeing with you on that point. I'm disagreeing on your view of Jordan and her chances of winning against Kevin.

Yes, Jeff gave her HOH a few weeks back, but she outlasted the rest of the competitors to get to that position. She also outlasted Kevin and Natalie in the swinging endurance competition. She may not have WON anything else, but she always tried, which is more than can be said for Natalie.

And honestly, if Jordan beats Kevin for the final HOH, it'll be pretty hard to ignore the fact that she delivered when her back was against the wall. I know that I'm biased, because I like Jordan as a person. Just because she didn't lie and scheme as hard or as effectively as the others doesn't make her less deserving of a win. At least it doesn't in my book. Based solely on gameplay and winning comps, I'd concede the win to Kevin, too. I just choose to take other things into consideration.

DONNABGOOD
09-11-2009, 09:58 AM
[Hopefully Jordon wins the last HOH and boots Kevin so she can win against Natalie. But for all she knows right now, the jury all still loves that bitch. I'm just hoping she hears our esp and takes Nat instead of Kev.

Yes I am hoping the same thing that Jordan wins and takes Natalie.. I hate the idea of Nat getting 50,000 but if helps Jordan get 500k than I'll live with the small price to pay..and it could happen..I think Jordan's loyalty to Jeff would make her choose kicking Kevin to the curb her first chance...

and did any one notice that Natalie kept insisiting America would always view her as "Jeff's girl" and nothing more.. just discounting Jordan completely.. even when you could tell Jordan's feeling were getting hurt, Natalie just kept stramrolling ahead that that was all she'd ever be..

Hey Nat don't quit you job as Asst Mgr just yet..

Southern_Essence
09-11-2009, 10:01 AM
Natalie thinks we see her as "Jeff's girl"?!?!?!? Holy crap, Batman!!! That skank is beyond help!

DONNABGOOD
09-11-2009, 10:11 AM
I'm sorry Southern. I typed that wrong. On BBAD they were sitting around the jacuzzi discussing how they will be viewed when they get recognized on the street after the show ends. Natalie said that Jordan would always only be known as Jeff's girl only..

Southern_Essence
09-11-2009, 10:34 AM
whewwww...thanks, donnaB...thought i was going to have an embolism there! lol

flyngdtchmn
09-11-2009, 10:49 AM
On the other hand, I honestly think that Nasty suffers from some sort of psychological disorder such as grandiose delusions. The girl HONESTLY thinks that America loves her and that she has behaved honorably in the house... There are no words... Ok I lie, there are words, but I will leave that to the imagination.

At one time, I thought that she actually believed all her crap that she is good and honorable and trustworthy but the more I listened, I have to disagree.

Anyone who really IS good, honorable and trustworthy does NOT have to keep repeating it in order to reinforce the statement.

No, she knows who and what she is and good, honorable and trustworthy are not it.

chooch850
09-11-2009, 11:15 AM
A Tribute To Michele! This is so appropriate for her. You Must watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJhqs-_r1gk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E*********************%2Eco m%2Fwp%2F%3Fp%3D13594&feature=player_embedded

Mimo
09-11-2009, 11:38 AM
After lurking for years I finally had to register to say thank you to Chooch for posting that link to Tribute to Michelle. I was pulling for her since day 1 (although I will admit Jeff and Russell are mighty fine) and was glad to see someone portray her as other than the awkward nerd.

doc5467
09-11-2009, 11:42 AM
A Tribute To Michele! This is so appropriate for her. You Must watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJhqs-_r1gk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E*********************%2Eco m%2Fwp%2F%3Fp%3D13594&feature=player_embedded

So great!! thank you so much for linking this; I loved it. And yes, I got a little damp-eyed, even. What a brave and fine person this victim of cruelty and hate really is. America's BB fans need to see this, and vote for her. Chooch, thanks again.

Southern_Essence
09-11-2009, 11:53 AM
The voting for favorite HG is over. I voted some for Jeff and some for Michelle....either would be great by me.

gsensel
09-11-2009, 12:12 PM
But the 7th juror is still going vote for Jordan!

chooch850
09-11-2009, 12:53 PM
After lurking for years I finally had to register to say thank you to Chooch for posting that link to Tribute to Michelle. I was pulling for her since day 1 (although I will admit Jeff and Russell are mighty fine) and was glad to see someone portray her as other than the awkward nerd.

I'm very happy that I lured you out. Glad you could join us & welcome to TVgasm.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 01:19 PM
Hey! How did the Wonderful Wizard of Hot get into my sig line? Whoever is responsible...thank you, thank you, thank you!

:whistling:

After lurking for years I finally had to register

Welcome to the forums Mimo

shantigal
09-11-2009, 01:26 PM
So great!! thank you so much for linking this; I loved it. And yes, I got a little damp-eyed, even. What a brave and fine person this victim of cruelty and hate really is. America's BB fans need to see this, and vote for her. Chooch, thanks again.

I voted for M. as America's player and it looks like a lot of the commenters on YouTube did as well. Unfortunately, Jeff will probably still win. Thanks for the link Chooch.

JustJesse
09-11-2009, 01:53 PM
A Tribute To Michele! This is so appropriate for her. You Must watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJhqs-_r1gk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E*********************%2Eco m%2Fwp%2F%3Fp%3D13594&feature=player_embedded

That was great! Thanks for sharing! :-)

IsabellaTheCat
09-11-2009, 01:54 PM
Thanks for the Jeff pic in my sig line Tink...I'll never stop posting now!

By the way, I've always wanted to let you know that sometimes when I am feeling especially crappy I come on here just to look at your pics of those sweet little baboos, Jason & Madelyn. Always makes me feel better.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 02:10 PM
Aww thanks Isabella! And glad you like the pic - please do post more so I can drool at him. hehe

noody
09-11-2009, 03:39 PM
A Tribute To Michele! This is so appropriate for her. You Must watch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJhqs-_r1gk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2E*********************%2Eco m%2Fwp%2F%3Fp%3D13594&feature=player_embedded

Awwww....that was sweet...I hope she gets a chance to see this when its all over so she knows America didnt hate her.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 03:50 PM
OK - watching last night's BBAD - gonna transcribe some of it for ya.

Jordan went to the DR. Kevin and Natalie eating their fancy dinner. They commented about this being the Jeff & Jordan show (they could hear people cheering for Jordan when the scores were announced)

They have champagne.

N: Jordan will drink the champagne

K: She's on cloud nine. (Staring at the memory wall) So they didn't even focus on Braden or Laura. No questions about Laura, nor about Braden.

(Earlier they had the final 3 reminisce about the season so they could get soundbites to set up Sunday's clip show. I guess that must be what he's referring to)

N: We just talked about them on our own. Cuz they were so early no one remembers them.

K: Mmm hmm

N: That was Casey and Ronnie

K: Mm hmm. Michelle is going to be known for her night terrors.

N:And motivating...(can't hear her for Kevin)

K: Jesse is going to be known for getting evicted by the mystery power.

N: and Lydia..

K: Lydia's going to be known for her explosions and her outbursts(No she's known for blowing Jesse :eek: ). Chima for throwing her microphone. Ronnie for being a maniacal player.

N:Jeff for being the sweetheart and everything.

K: Fuck Jeff, I'm so SICK of Jeff. :blink:

N: I know, I am too

K: What they don't understand was he was like ..he was ...

KEVIN, NATALIE YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT PRODUCTION

K: Jeff was like playing Jordan. Dude, I if I didn't get rid of Jeff, we would have lost.

N: It would have been them two in the end and Jeff would have won.

K: MM mm.....sshhooooo

N: America lovveeeeeeeess Jeff and Jordan, that's why they have a storyline
because they are loved.

K: mm hmm. And she has this underdog story.

N: With her mom? I know, I didn't believe it..

K: We're gonna know that everybody would have ever thought she'd ...

N: that she'd get this far?

K: And they were rooting for her and we're looking like bullies

N: right, not just that too, but it's like she needs it cuz ...you know what I'm saying? But everybody needs it in their own way. Just cuz ya know - I don't live with my dad- ya know. Seriously tho it was from Casey and Ronnie.

K: I did like Casey, he was hilarious. Even when he wore the banana suit, he didn't wear it bitterly. Same with Lydia tho

N: Yeah

K: Honestly, Russell, I couldn't find any redeeming values about him. I just thought he was slimey, he was over the top masculine, he was sneaky, he treated women horribly, he thought that he was smarter than he was....

N: Oh we forgot to say scheming

K: Oh yeah, schemer

N: lol, the real schemer of everybody is...

K: I think the real thing about him was, he sounded like he came from a rough environment you know and made something out of it. You know growing up in Lebanon?

N: Yeah.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 04:11 PM
More from last night

K: I think Michelle if....what she needed in her game in order to win it was she needed to have...

N: More risks...

K: She needed to have a human side, she didn't have a human side, she was so robotic, so calculated and so logical that it scared people, you know?

N: uh huh, yup

K: And she would have won if she just like...was more likable. I think Lydia would have gotten far too if she just knew how to control her emotions. Cuz she was scheming, like she was throwing people under the bus left and right.

N: (Nat is very animated now) Even Jordan was telling me, she threw you under the bus a lot Kevin, not just that pond(?) incident, she threw you under a lot more. Times I didn't even know, i just knew the things she would tell Jesse and she would other people things about you too apparantly

K: Oh, I know and she threw Braden under the bus. I didn't know that original Braden blow up that caused me to blow up to when he called us beaners was because Braden was upset that Lydia had told Jesse that Jeff and Braden were a force to deal with and they needed to go, so that's why Braden came up...she came up to me and told me "kevin just stay close to me" SO she must have just told them, she freaked out and came up to me. I had no idea...

N: And you just happened to be there...

K: I had no idea why is this guy approaching me. And she's like "just stay close to me" and he came up and he's like "Thanks for throwing me under the bus, you know I think you are a whore, whatever" so now it makes sense why he did that. And then I told him it was my idea to vote to evict you, cuz I didn't like him

N: umm hmm

K: But I had no idea that that was all going down

N: Good ole Ronnie came threw that week, if Braden would have still been here Kevin, imagine?

K: He would have been gone anyway, he was an idiot, he didn't play the game at all.

N: No.

K: He just wanted to be like the pimp, mack daddy of the house.

N: mm hmm, he told Michelle "we should get evicted together and go to the jury house together so that we can do it on camera...er...do it without cameras"

K: He said he had the hots for Lydia

N: He wanted to hook up with anybody who would hook up with him

K: Every girl, I know He just wanted to hook up

N: Anybody who would have hooked up with him he would have hooked up with them.

K: Yup. I think Laura would have stayed if she had just stuck with the clicque.

N: If she had stuck with us she would have stayed.

K: She seriously would have gone further, I'm not sure how far she would have gotten but she definitely knew the game

N: But she had to know that the 5th clique was a true loyal thing after how she didn't get put up week 1, she had to know that wow maybe this is a good thing, maybe I should stay loyal to them. She just got saved and then she went against it. Ya know, I didn't get it

K: I know I can't figure it out

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 04:28 PM
More from last night

A lot of silences as they stare at the wall.

K: Jesse too, he realized too late that he put all his eggs in too few of a baskets. He put it into you, Lydia and Ronnie

N: And Chima

K: And Chima, but then he realized that this mystery power was coming and so he's like "oh fuck" that's when he started to court me and a little bit of Jordan

N: Yeah cuz he wasn't expecting it, the mystery power came out of nowhere.

K: Yeah, and it was too late then.

N: Who'd you think, did you think my loy, who'd you think I was closer to? Did you think it was Jesse or did you know it was Chima?

(FYI, that's how she talks, I just type it how she says it)

K: Chima, I'm sorry Jesse it was Jesse, 100% Jesse. I had no idea you were close to Chima.

N: Really?

K: Zero Idea (that's cuz she was buried so far up Jesse's ass it was hard to tell). You were always talking about Jesse, around Jesse... everything, everything Jesse. I started to realize that there was this weird threesome going on towards the end. You know, "Now Chima's on board with Jesse?" cuz to me it wasn't obvious beforel, but towards the end she was all about him. (the camera pans from Jesse's pic on the memory wall to Chima's) And that's when I thought, he needs to go, he is getting way too powerful, he's collecting girls. He collects girls, not guys, girls.

N: He had Ronnie

K: No, he didn't . Ronnie was using Jesse.

N: He DID have Ronnie

K: Ronnie was more powerful and using Jesse. Ronnie was playing everybody. I'm serious. You were getting played by him too.

N: What did Ronnie do to play me? He never screwed me in any way in this game. (camera zooms into Ronnie on the memory wall and his little smirk fits this convo perfectly)

K: That you know of.

N: He didn't.

K: That you know of.

N: I never had a chance to be.... the whole time Ronnie was here I was always on top. YOU were always on top Dude. Our alliance was on top.

K: I don't know.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 05:05 PM
Still more

N: We gotta do some major cleaning tonight. All this (pointing at the fancy table)

K: No they gotta get ridda this

N: No their not, I don't think so

K: Are these our dishes now? It was kinda cool too.

N: Yeah, of course. I think we've gotta take care of it though.

K: (looking back at the wall and whining) Chima coulda got farrrrr tooooo. What the fuck, like why did she lose her mind? It would've been me, you and Chima in the end probably, something like that.

N: No, because it would have been me or Chima going home that week. We were up on the block against each other that week, remember?

K: Oh, that's right. But what if you could of won the Veto?

N: yeah but then, one of us was still going home

K: Then Lydia would have been put up

N: Or you

K: Oh that's true, maybe it's, seriously it's probably a good thing. Anything that happened is a good thing cuz we made in the final 3.

N: Yeah

K: Even mystery power, you never know what have happened.

N: See, even though Jeff... we all think it was a good move cuz he woulda got out earlier, the thing is he didn't make it to the end so what IF he didn't use it? What if? Who knows what would have happened, the turns that would have ya know .... Michelle still have won HOH right then and there so he would have been safe there, and who knows you know what I'm saying, who knows what would have happened?

K: Yeah but who knows anything?

N: Like that season Will didn't use it, he won, so it's like good thing I didn't use it, I won

(they mean Boogie)

K: Yeah but Will isn't a bottom bitch, Jeff was a bottom bitch in this game.

N: Yeah but maybe being in the bottom would have ended up getting him, cuz everybody was like we all want him out so let's just skip him and get someone, like Casey wasn't someone who wasn't a bottom and that's whey we decided to take Casey out. We were like, this is the perfect opportunity. But Jeff's he's always at the bottom, he's always gonna be at the bottom so do we wanna skip him this week and take out someone who's not a bottom? That's how you think in this game so he could have gotten to the end, maybe.

K: But everybody saw through him really a bottom person he was a strong ass competitor.

N: Playing it, playing it.

K: So everybody saw through that fakeness. For me, that was my strategy, to be bottom, cuz I knew that you know, that everybody overlooked me. That's why Russel kept saying "no Kevin's a strong competitor" that's a card I can play, cuz who I am.

N: Mm hmm

K: Jeff couldn't play that card, he was too strong.

N: Yeah.

Jordan comes out of the DR, Natalie asks her if they are all going to go in there. She said that Kevin will probably be called soon -

KEVIN PLEASE GO TO THE DIARY ROOM

N: And then me.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 05:38 PM
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Jordan gets to eat her cake now.

J: Aren't you excited?

N: yeah I am (not convincingly)

J: I'm in the best mood

N: You made the best move?

J: No, I'm IN the best mood.

N: there's a whole bottle of champagne too.

J: Good

N: Yeah I'm excited

J: You should be, don't be scared

N: Yeah I am, but you know it is what it is

J: was he saying anything to you?

N: No we were talking about this, we were talking about the wall and people

J: I felt bad, he doesn't like Jeff does he?

N: No. When I went in the DR the first time, what was he saying, after the competition when I first went in the DR?

J (she is talking low with a mouthful having a hard time decyphering her): Yeah, it's really short, I'll you later, we've got plenty of time to talk

N: But now's the perfect time to talk, he's in the DR, he comes out we can talk about the memory wall

J: but he won't be in there long, they just have to tell him something

They whisper a lot so I can't hear them, then...

J: The only bad thing about it being on the finale is if I lose on the 3rd round I'm gonna be upset. I'm gonna try my hardest but it's kinda like a luck o'the draw kinda

N: Yeah

They think they hear Kevin coming so they talk about wanting a spa day. The first thing Jordan's gonna do when she goes home is get her hair done.

J: I'm excited I'm gonna get to see my family!

N: I Know it'll be probably my fiance and my dad

J: OH and I'll get to meet your fiance

N: yeah

J: In person. Won't it be awkward when we're all on the stage together? It'll be like "hey" Doncha feel like Laura and all them will feel like strangers?

N: Yeah

J: Like if I was first or second one evicted I'd feel like I don't know anybody

N: I hope it's you and me in the end, I really do (She can't even pretend to listen to Jordan, too busy pushing her agenda)

J: I'm gonna try my best. Well the last one I did pretty good.

N: It's a fifty-fifty shot that's what it comes down to.

J: But you know, what if you get the first one wrong, you'd automatically be like "Oh God!"

N: One day when he's sleeping we'll go in the back yard and we'll go over every jury member and ...


J: ..think of the things they would say?

N: Yeah cuz you know, we could go over and talk about each one so that way you could get my ...

J: I always get Jeff's wrong and I should know his

N: I got Chima's wrong

J: I bet there gonna ask something like "Do you think Jeff and Russell are friends now or made up"

N: NOo it's gonna be like...

J: What they thought about ...

N: It's gonna be recordings, it's not gonna be about what they thought about each other or you know?

J: Right

More talk about what to do with the clean up from the fancy stuff. Jordan worries there will be ants everywhere if they don't clean up.

Natalie asks if Jordan wants to get in the jacuzzi. They go to get their suitcases.

And we come upon the first commercial

That took me 2 hours to do 15 minutes. Yipes that's a lot of dialogue.

kittkatt
09-11-2009, 06:08 PM
You're doing a fantastic job Tink, keep it up. I'm so greatful to you and all the recappers that keep us up to date on everything happening in the house. Mwah!! Love all of ya'll!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 06:19 PM
Just wondering - is this at all interesting? Cuz I could watch this faster if I'm on typing - but if people are reading....

And we're back

The girls have their suitcases now.

J: America must have really liked Jeff

N snorts: Seriously

J: No, I'm serious

N: NO, I know, I agree

J: I was like geeze

N: I'm saying. OH, someone left their chicken suit, did you want one?

J: Who left it?

N: I don't know

J: Probably Michelle

(Probably Russell, he left everything behind)

N: No Michelle never had one, I have mine

J: Hmm.. Some of that food is upsetting my stomach. I'm not unpacking all the way.

N: I'm not unpacking anything, I'm just gonna leave my suitcase...

J: I wish they had something for us to doooooo

N: I know

J: Five days!

N: I hope they do

J: I kinda thing they would.

Jordan jokes that when they said no one was going home tonight and they already had their luggage she thought that meant they were going somewhere. Natalie thought the same thing.

J: Was your heart pounding when you started that competition first?

N: OH yeah, and then..

J: When you saw it were you kinda relieved? Like "OH this is it!"

N: Yeah

J: I was excited! I was like, yeah, ok, alright, I know these. That's why they couldn't give us any hints about anything cuz it would so give it away.

J: Do you want me to straighten your hair on finale night?

N: Yeah, for sure

J: are you going to wear make up

N: Yeah, we'll do it all, for sure the whole nine yards

J: we all get to get ready

N: For sure, for sure

Kevin enters.

K: What?

N: On finale night I'm gonna wear make up

J: I asked her if she's gonna straighten her hair

N: Or maybe do straight, maybe we'll do something different cuz I already straightened it

NATALIE PLEASE GO TO THE DIARY ROOM

Natalie tells Kevin how they want to go in the jacuzzie and he needs to put his trunks on. He doesn't want to. Natalie groans and heads off to the DR.

Jordan tells Kevin about how she has the worse diarhea. He asks if it's nerves.

J: Or excited, I can't wait til it's over

K: Over over

J: aren't you kinda ready?

K: I know

J: I can't wait to go home and just be in a normal, you can only take so .... my stomach is constantly churning and nervous.

K: You know what, I don't think we should change our clothes actually..

J: Oh!

She's unpacking.

K: So, you're totally on board right? Cuz last time we were talking

J: Yes! You make me nervous when you say that!

K: Why?

J: Yea, I am for sure on board, why do you keep asking me, Cuz it scares me, like what is he thinking why does he keep asking me. cuz honestly, I don't think you would pick me.

K: Why do you keep thinking that.

J: I don't know. Cuz I don't think you would.

K: Well, 1000% If I get the choice, I will pick you

J: Ok

K: It's going to be huge, I already know what I'm going to say because you know it sucks

J: Cuz I saw you walking by the memory wall and I was like he still doesn't have a decision.

K: No no no, i was going through dates and facts and stuff, cuz I thought I was going to do phase 3.

J: I was like, he still doesn't know, he still doesn't know.....that's why I was like tell meeeeeee if I am..

K: My mind had been made up a long time ago

J: she said that she can swap it.

K: that's part of what I'll say, ultimately if I have a choice, that I still can't risk the fact if you have the final two mystery power. And she could be like "I don't have it" and I can tell her "remember when I went upstairs and you swore on everything you said that you did have it, so which one should I believe?"

(Now wouldn't that be funny if Natalie's little lie was what ended up getting her booted by Kevin?)

They talk about the money and how they would still be friggin ecstatic over $50k. Everytime Jordan gets excited to talk about something he cuts in to get back to the point, the same way Natalie did when HE was in the DR.

K: SO even if Natalie convinces you to

N: She's....I know...dont' be paranoid. I know everyone this whole week is. Like when someone gets called to the DR, you automatically think , cuz that's what we're used to.

K: She's already on me. I just have to calm her down. I don't want to torture her.

They talk about their scenarios.

K: With her it's a guaranteed 2nd, with you it's guaranteed 2nd with a possibility of 1st.

They talk about the romance with Jeff and how it was a big storyline. Kevin tells her how the DR tried to get him to keep Jeff around. She had no idea.

JORDAN, KEVIN YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT PRODUCTION!

J: I didn't know he was...

K: So loved..

J: Yeah

K: At one point, when people would talk to me in this house, I would say I can't talk about Jeff anymore, sorry. Especially when I realized america was voting.

They talk about who they thought had the CDT. She tells him when Jeff found out. It was when Russell called the house meeting to call out Michelle, everyone was in the kitchen distracted by the drama so no one noticed Jeff. It was perfect timing.

Natalie informs them she was behind Russell calling Michelle out. She didn't like Michelle so she told him his only chance to stay in the game was to call Michelle out. She told him to call the house meeting.

K: Wait, why were you on team russell if you were friends with Chima?

She says that Michelle was lying about Chima. Kevin doesn't look convinced. So now they are bashing Michelle.

They are getting ready to do the fake reminiscing - guess they have to re-do some parts. So they are trying to remember how they had their hair and clothes, Natalie putting on shoes.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 06:58 PM
Yay - thanks Kitt, was starting to feel lonesome here. lol

OK- they are on the couches, guess they are going to pretend to reminisce for the Sunday show.

Now Natalie admits to them how they made up that big lie about Michelle being in the green room - remember this one, it's an old lie from a few weeks back.

(Does she realize telling all her great big lies to these two might encourage them NOT to bring her to final 2 - she's so proud of herself she doesn't realize she's digging a potentially $50k hole)

Kevin tries to talk about a fight when Ronnie got in his face but Natalie says not now.

He said that they were supposed to talk naturally. But she says - not now, just wait.

She has an upset stomach too - and took the last two tums. Kevin guesses his stomach will get upset later.

When Natalie retells these stories she gets very fired up. Talking a mile a minute.

They talk about how paranoid people got. Natalie tells them how she and Jesse caught Lydia crawling up to eavesdrop on them- they saw her in a mirror.

When we return from commercial you can hear production telling them something and Kevin responding "ok we won't mention it" he seems kinda annoyed and put off. Natalie calls Jordan to come back to the couches.

This is so staged. Cuz you know Natalie can't speak in a Natural voice - she's using her DR voice - wait for it on Sunday.

She uses her nasal shouts to tell them about the proposal from her fiance. She explains the twistie tie.

N: Big Brother has been on for 11 years now and this is the first engagement ever. (Unless you count Boogie and Krista from season 3)

LOL Not sure who is a worse actor - Natalie or Kevin. They recall different fights. Kevin and Ronnie's fight with a chest bump. Jordan and Russell's boob bump. Lydia and Natalie fighting in the kitchen over Natalie's bed. Jordan and Lydia's fight.

Jordan tried to ask another question but Natalie cut her off cuz they were done talking about stuff for the cameras.

JORdAN PLEASE GO TO THE DIARY ROOM

Now Kevin and Natalie reminisce of the lie they told Jeff about Russell, Guess that's why Jordan was called off. This is making my tummy hurt.

K: it was 2 against 4 and here we are.

Jordan comes back out and they decide to get in the jacooz (That's how Jeff would say it).

They joke about how other houseguests lived in this house - and then they do Renny impersonations "Mary, St. Joseph, it's locked!" lol

They go outside andthere's a spider over the jacooz and another on the couches, Kevin comes out with spray - while he sprays the girls (and I) squeal. It falls in the hot tub, they want him to get it out. EEK!

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 07:27 PM
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N to K: Didn't those shorts get evicted?

LOL

His shorts ARE ugly.


They talk about how people will be recognized after the show, Jordan tells Kevin people will recognize him, he doesn't think so, she says yes because you are funny.

That's when they tell her people will recognize her as Jeff's Girl, She gets mad and doesn't want to only be known as Jeff's Girl (You can call ME Jeff's girl if you like). Kevin says they will always think of Nat and Jesse together. They will think of Lydia as tattoo girl.

N: And Michelle as the devil!

K/J: Nooooo

Ronnie - the gamer, the manipulator.
They think they'll pick him for all-stars.

K: Chima will forever be known as the girl who lost her mind. Forever.

J: She reminds me of the diva, like one of those girls on Real Housewives.

K: What sucks tho, I don't know if America will see how funny she was? She might just be portrayed as an angry black woman.

J: She was nice, but you didn't want on her bad side, if you got on her bad side she could be mean.

N: She was a strong girl, she was a strong woman.

J: She was really pretty

N: Yeah 33 - no way

K: She always said black don't crack

J: She was very very very pretty

K: Even tho Braden and Laura were not on our minds, America will never recognize them

N: We didn't even talk about Laura

K: Nope, no one will remember her. And Casey will always be remembered as Banana Suit.

J: I don't want to be remembered as Jeff's I wanna be remembered as Jordan, Gucci

K: Maybe

N: the Gucci may come out but you will for sure be known as Jeff's girl, for sure

K: MM hmm

N: that is good tho, people liked him, they will think OMG you were Jeff's girl

Jordan doesn't think people will notice her,but they think since she works in a salon people will come in who know her.

K: At least we won't be like Jesse - he's forever burned as a douchebag (Lmao!)

N: Always! He was like the douchebag of Season 10 and the prick of season 11 but he laughed about it. I still like him tho.

Jordan tries to tell them about a time when Jesse was mean to a camera man. Saying something like "that's why you're the one filming ME"

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT PRODUCTION.

K: he was a douchebag, you eat nothing but fast food, that's why you're out of shape.

J: that was so mean

N: I remember I didn't laugh at the time

J: I was wondering why was he like that

K:He was a douchebag he really thought he was superior to people

N: Russell was like that too

J: I think russell will be the jesse of this season

K: Yeah he probably got a douchebag edit too

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 07:49 PM
K: I'm Sure he thought he was so smart and so sinister and that's why we were told to stop with those voting to evict message...

J: That was Natalie

K: I think it was Russell too

N: I did too, Braden I said "I gladly vote to evict Braden" and for Casey I said "I vote to evict the bitter banana Casey" that's it.

The reason they don't like that is it throws the Chenbot's programming off when people go off script.

J: I think I would like Jesse out of here

N: I don't think Kevin would

K: nuh uh

Jordan thinks he might actually be a nice guy outside of here.

I am seeing way too much of Natalie's buttcrack sticking out of her bikini - it's disturbing.

kittkatt
09-11-2009, 07:50 PM
I love you Tink, it must be one of those unexplainable girl crushes us straight ladies have sometimes you know based on admiration. I admire you cuz there's no way I could watch boring people talk about the same things constantly and not wanna pound nails through both my eyeballs and eardrums. I love you cuz you type it all out for us. Lol! Anyway doing nothing but sitting here stuffing my face with jack in the box tacos, drinking the last beer in the house and debating on whether or not to go to the store before it gets to late to buy some more.

kittkatt
09-11-2009, 07:56 PM
You'll always be seen as "Jeff's Girl" in my eyes Tink.

kittkatt
09-11-2009, 08:09 PM
I wonder if bb will ever have an "angels and demons" all stars? Think of the teams..

Demons:
Nastylie
Evil dick
Old man jerry
Allison(not really demon I guess I just hate the "biznatch"

Angels:
Jeff
Jordan
Janelle
Who else?

Guess I don't need that extra beer after all.

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 09:24 PM
Kitt you are cracking me up. I love you too!

Tonight's BBAD

Kevin is telling Jordan he thinks he needs to tell Natalie he's not taking her to the final 2. He thinks it might be better to tell her now than to have her flip out on the live show.

He tells Jordan if she sticks to their plan they are both guaranteed $50k.

This could be interesting if he really means it - and if Jordan does it too - than we could have 4 days of Natalie pouting on the feeds. That would be like BB Christmas!

Jordan says to wait cuz it's only Friday and then she'll be moping around and make you feel bad. He jokes she'll be desperate like Michelle.

Kevin says he asked the DR how it works if he wins the 3rd part is the elimination right away, if not he's going to hide in the Bathroom, he'll even tell Natalie his tum hurts before the comp so that she will buy it after that he has an upset tum.

He wants it to happen right away.

chooch850
09-11-2009, 09:34 PM
Sorry to interrupt Tink, but I just read this at EW.com. Jeff is already scheduled to be on Bonnie Hunt's talk show next Friday! He's on his way.....

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/09/11/big-brother-11s-jeff-please-quit-your-day-job/

TinkerbellAPixie
09-11-2009, 09:40 PM
OOOOH Chooch - that is yummy news!

kittkatt
09-11-2009, 09:53 PM
I've been dealin with an exorsist vomiting 5yo since early this morning but hearing that kevin wants to tel gnat that she's SOL makes me perk right up. Please please please let it happen. Lol!

nyc cookie
09-11-2009, 10:52 PM
Wow that tribute to Michelle left me a bit teary-eyed.
She was my fav and now she's gone. But maybe she has won more than money in this game. Maybe she found herself, and what a great find that is! Love you Michelle--xoxo

noody
09-12-2009, 01:24 AM
Sorry to interrupt Tink, but I just read this at EW.com. Jeff is already scheduled to be on Bonnie Hunt's talk show next Friday! He's on his way.....

http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/09/11/big-brother-11s-jeff-please-quit-your-day-job/

Dan was also on Bonnie Hunt right after BB10 last year...So pretty good that Jeff will be on BEFORE the winner of this year...:thumbup:

msjacqmills
09-12-2009, 09:36 AM
I wonder if bb will ever have an "angels and demons" all stars? Think of the teams..

Demons:
Nastylie
Evil dick
Old man jerry
Allison(not really demon I guess I just hate the "biznatch"

Angels:
Jeff
Jordan
Janelle
Who else?

Guess I don't need that extra beer after all.

Add to Demons:
Howie (he was obnoxious)
Shiela

Angels:
Dan
Keisha
Kaysar

Also, wanted to add that former houseguest,Danielle, had a good point on Thursdays show that a female has never won BB when in a final 2 with a guy - that is not cool!

pixielated
09-13-2009, 12:20 AM
I wouldn't put Jeff in the Angel category after the way he treated Michele. He has a really ugly side that I don't think qualifies him to be an "angel." Also, saying that he wanted to make Jordan a "better person" just creeped the hell out of me.

Maybe instead of Angels and Demons it could be Heroes and Villains? Though, same thing, I don't think Jeff is a hero. He didn't exactly acquit himself nobly. I agree on Jordan, however. I wish she'd find a guy who thinks she's just perfect the way she is and doesn't want to make her "better."

HandyManda
09-13-2009, 07:10 AM
I wouldn't put Jeff in the Angel category after the way he treated Michele. He has a really ugly side that I don't think qualifies him to be an "angel." Also, saying that he wanted to make Jordan a "better person" just creeped the hell out of me.

Maybe instead of Angels and Demons it could be Heroes and Villains? Though, same thing, I don't think Jeff is a hero. He didn't exactly acquit himself nobly. I agree on Jordan, however. I wish she'd find a guy who thinks she's just perfect the way she is and doesn't want to make her "better."

I know that I'm on the Jeff Love Train, but I REALLY don't think he meant that he wanted to maker her better as a person. I think he meant a better player. I think he's smarter than that to go on national tv and sound like a dominearing jerk like that on purpose. (And yes I know he said some pretty asshole-ish stuff on the feeds.)