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HoneyBunny
10-11-2006, 07:35 PM
I am starting this thread b/c I was watching Katie and Andy on the Live Blog tonight and it seems our own Mountain_girl went out with Andy the last time she was in LA. So....anyone else beside me want to hear about how they "Made It Work"?????
hb
Double L
10-11-2006, 11:14 PM
Totally random but somewhat related...
Starving war refugee or fashion model? (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/061007/481/aa0efca57a6d467ba96638bdc99bb32c;_ylt=AoR1UcVvlA7R kqWEagYsC2JPXLoF;_ylu=X3oDMTBia2Jza2VjBHNlYwNnYWxs ZXJ5)
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megz912
10-12-2006, 07:37 AM
that model looks like a baby adrianne curry.
wendy_loohoo
10-12-2006, 07:52 AM
That is disgusting, someone get that lady a hot fudge sunday stat! She is so skinny her face doesn't even look remotely pretty. Yucky!
ObstinantGirl
10-12-2006, 08:43 AM
That's a VERY disturbing series of pictures.
Anyway, I was really having a hard time staying awake last night through the show. The commercial breaks finally did me in, and I was out cold by 10:45 so I missed the final 15 minutes. What happened???!!!???
FWIW, I think that Laura's collection (I'm thrilled to say) was the clear winner of the bunch. Absolutely drop-dead gorgeous. Jeffrey's was as ugly and nutty as you'd expect it to be. Michael's didn't do much for me. And Uli's was 'okay' but I don't think that the judges are going to like it very much.
Clair
10-12-2006, 08:54 AM
The other day I ran across an article on that model:
This particular fashion model is just one of hundreds who strut down the catwalks of Paris. She is not a supermodel. In fact, she is of so little consequence in the modeling world that photographs of her list her as "an unnamed model." But it was the way this unnamed woman looked that created startled gasps in the audience on Saturday in Paris as they viewed the spring-summer 2007 ready to wear collection by designer Guy Laroche.
London's Sunday Mirror reports that with every vertebrae in her spine visible and a clear view of her ribcage, the model's six-inch heels with black leggings just heightened the unattractive look. "The heaviest things about her were the bags under her eyes," one onlooker told Mirror reporter Susie Boniface.
Meanwhile, the fashionistas in Madrid have banned underweight models. The Spanish Association of Fashion Designers won't let a woman strut their catwalks if her body mass index (BMI), a calculation based on height and weight, is less than 18. A healthy BMI is 18.5 to 25. Medical treatment will be offered to excessively thin models.
Holy, Dbl L, that is a crazy-looking photo of that model!! I know there are women who are naturally skinny, who struggle to put on weight but even those women don't have their rib cages struggling to break thru the skin like that, do they? Her body actually looks quite unattractive, unhealthy, she must be anorexic? She looks like a human hanger.
So what did you guys thnk of the episode?
I liked seeing the final contestants and their respective homes (I still haven't warmed up to Jeffrey in the least, tho), as well as getting to know them a little bit more. It was nice to see Laura's and Micheal's families, learn more about Uli and see Jeff's kid, seems to bring out the smidge of warmness in Jeffrey.
Feeling a bit unsure about Micheal's outfits, at least what little we've seen of them so far. Curious about how Laura's suspicions about Jeffrey's outfits will play out next wk! The teaser for nxt week made it seem as if Tim Gunn was telling him 'unfortunately we're....[end of sound bite' and the nxt thing you see is Jeffrey breaking down & crying. I know they prolly want us to believe that he's been auf'd but as we know he certainly presented so maybe TG says something like 'unfortunately we have no way of disproving that you ddn't sew these, so we're going to allow u to show...etc etc'. It is rather surprising that Jeffrey finished all the details on his outfits in such a short time, but maybe he did. What adds to the suspicion is that since he has his own clothing line already, how hard would it be for him to ask/pay any of these people to finish some of the smaller details for him? well, we'll see what happens!
I would be happy to see Uli or Micheal win especially, but wouldn't be disappointed if Laura won (even tho I don't thnk she'd benefit from the money the way the other 2 mite).
wendy_loohoo
10-12-2006, 09:51 AM
The teaser for nxt week made it seem as if Tim Gunn was telling him 'unfortunately we're....[end of sound bite' and the nxt thing you see is Jeffrey breaking down & crying. I know they prolly want us to believe that he's been auf'd but as we know he certainly presented so maybe TG says something like 'unfortunately we have no way of disproving that you ddn't sew these, so we're going to allow u to show...etc etc'.
I was thinking that TG would say something along the lines of... 'Unfortunately Jeffery broke the rules and he cannot win PR but we will allow him to show at Bryant Park because the designs are clearly his.' I could live with that but I would have liked to see him completely barred from the runway, but we all know that didn't happen.
I would be happy to see Uli or Micheal win especially, but wouldn't be disappointed if Laura won (even tho I don't thnk she'd benefit from the money the way the other 2 mite).
Who cares who would benefit from the money more? This is a thing that gets brought up in reference to reality shows all the time, so and so deserves to win because s/he has no money. That doens't hold water with me because the show is not about who has the worst life and needs the money. It is about the design quality in this case. The money while certain nice and no doubt will help set up their line the race is for recogniztion of the best talent not who has the worst bank balance.
ObstinantGirl
10-12-2006, 11:08 AM
Who cares who would benefit from the money more? This is a thing that gets brought up in reference to reality shows all the time, so and so deserves to win because s/he has no money. That doens't hold water with me because the show is not about who has the worst life and needs the money.I do agree with this.
It is rather surprising that Jeffrey finished all the details on his outfits in such a short time, but maybe he did. Maybe. They still look like crap to me, though, either way! I guess that's why I never noticed with his other designs if he's a good seamstress or not, I was just so revolted by the designs themselves.
First of all, those model's pictures were so disturbing. And they say you photograph heavier than you are. Can you imagine what she looks like in person?
I liked Uli's and Laura's designs so far. Michael's bling on some outfits, didn't fit well. Who knows how the show is edited for us to see some things, think another way, etc. Jeffrey's designs were eh. The way I took the preview for next week is: Tim Gunn will tell him he can't show certain items. Remember Jeffrey saying he had vests and shorts pleated by someone else? Maybe he can't show those items?
Anyway, the episode was lacking in Heidi. I missed her.
Who cares who would benefit from the money more? This is a thing that gets brought up in reference to reality shows all the time, so and so deserves to win because s/he has no money. That doens't hold water with me because the show is not about who has the worst life and needs the money. It is about the design quality in this case. The money while certain nice and no doubt will help set up their line the race is for recogniztion of the best talent not who has the worst bank balance.
Wendy, I could see the scene with Jeffrey and TG next week playing out just as you described, a very strong possibility. So curious to see what happens!
Also, you're absolutely right about the money issue, it shouldn't and undoubtedly, doesn't factor into the judges' decision. I would be happy to see Uli, Michael or Laura win, and personally for me, that's a hard call because I like different things about each one & they all have different tastes, so I did consider other things, but I know those aren't really valid issues. I guess I just meant that I would happy to see the winner really benefit from that prize, but I realize ultimately it should (& will) come down to whomever is most talented and displays the best all-around collection. And rightly so! Anywys, I can't wait til nxt wk!!
oh, BTW, i went to Bravo's website and I was reading the Ask TG questions----many of the comments posted by viewers were in support of Jeffrey and lambasted Laura about her suspicions---I was really surprised to see that many Jeffrey fans out there :eek: Aside from the fact that he's a real asshole, more importantly, his designs have left very little to be desired. REALLY hope he's out nxt wk!!
ryan07
10-12-2006, 11:50 AM
Maybe Jeffrey came prepared, thinking there would be a twist like last year when they had to make a 13th look that made poor Chloe break down.
I have to say I thought the way Laura handled it was pretty shitty. She should have said something to Jeffrey first. "I just want you to know I think you cheated and I told Tim Gunn." That's so immature and it doesn't give him a chance to explain himself at all.
Now, having said that, in the past two seasons, NO ONE has ever not had something to do. They've obviously all been great designers and even they needed to put the finishing touches on things.
I have to say I thought the way Laura handled it was pretty shitty. She should have said something to Jeffrey first. "I just want you to know I think you cheated and I told Tim Gunn." That's so immature and it doesn't give him a chance to explain himself at all.
Now, having said that, in the past two seasons, NO ONE has ever not had something to do. They've obviously all been great designers and even they needed to put the finishing touches on things.
See, I thought she handled it very well. Instead of just talking shit behind his back and then telling Tim Gunn, but acting cool to his face, she came straight out and told him. What does it matter if she tells Jeffery before Tim Gunn or not? In this kind of situation, it's not like he can make up for his wrongdoing before she tells Tim. I just thought it was cool that she actually had the balls to say something to his face. She stood behind her beliefs, which is all she really has to do.
Clair
10-12-2006, 01:44 PM
See, I thought she handled it very well. Instead of just talking shit behind his back and then telling Tim Gunn, but acting cool to his face, she came straight out and told him. What does it matter if she tells Jeffery before Tim Gunn or not? In this kind of situation, it's not like he can make up for his wrongdoing before she tells Tim. I just thought it was cool that she actually had the balls to say something to his face. She stood behind her beliefs, which is all she really has to do.
I agree. I also thought it was cool that she had the balls to say something to Tim Gunn - she could have just bitched and moaned to everyone and not made her suspicions official.
jasminetheawesome
10-12-2006, 01:48 PM
The editors tried really hard to make us like Jeff last night. It didn't work, on me anyway.
megz912
10-12-2006, 02:11 PM
I thought Laura approached Jeffrey in a very appropriate manner. Totally not believing that Jeffrey is crying bc he can't show bc we all know he did and there were pics of his collection. I wonder if he just can't show the two things that he had go out to get pleated. Just a thought...
HoneyBunny
10-12-2006, 02:56 PM
I love Bad Mommy!! She is married to a guy who looks like Einstein, pops out boy babies like a Pez dispenser, picks up turtle poop, creates an entire collection for Olympus Fashion Week, has a set of Louis Vuitton bags, walks in four-inch spike heels and still manages to poke her nose into Penis neck's business. "You just don't pull craftsmanship like that outta your ass." I would not be surprised at ANYTHING Jeffery pulled out of his orifice....one can only imagine what might be up there!
Poor TimGunn. First he gets to hear how Michael's Dad (ex-Army) was always been supportive of his son even during the (gulp) beautician then clothes designer years. Next to Skeletor's lair where he is a freaked out by those little humans running around him. Sturm und Drang! Tim walking on a hot Miami beach carrying his designer shoes and holding a bottle of water...he looked soooo out of his element. Uli growing up in East Germany said they didn't have "color". I had no idea! Then TG got to meet the women who spawed Jeffery's seed. Oh - she is a real winner.
When they were doing the model selection I was amazed at how many of them were bowlegged. Is it because they were wearing the skinny jeans and that is the only way you can walk when something is gripping your inner thighs so tight you can't breathe?! Seeing Nazri again reminds me of what a beautiful woman she is! Damn! Seeing Collier Strong again reminds me of how glad I am no one ever thrown acid on my face! Damn!
I am still on your bandwagon Michael...even though that white and gold sequin top was atrosh!
hb
angiemarie
10-12-2006, 04:58 PM
Why is it that when Michael says he loves his collection and he is confident he will win, I think it's adorable. But when Jeffrey says the same thing, I think he's a prick?
Last week when Michael was wearing braces, I thought he had gotten a "grill" for his teeth. So glad he explained they were braces!
ObstinantGirl
10-13-2006, 07:16 AM
I love Bad Mommy!! She is married to a guy who looks like Einstein, pops out boy babies like a Pez dispenser, picks up turtle poop, creates an entire collection for Olympus Fashion Week, has a set of Louis Vuitton bags, walks in four-inch spike heels and still manages to poke her nose into Penis neck's business. "You just don't pull craftsmanship like that outta your ass."I agree with every word of this :)
Why is it that when Michael says he loves his collection and he is confident he will win, I think it's adorable. But when Jeffrey says the same thing, I think he's a prick? Maybe it's because Jeffrey IS a prick? And Michael's a nice guy? I could be grasping at straws here, but that's my guess!
basia.mille
10-15-2006, 08:32 AM
Call me crazy, but I love Jeffrey and all of his designs!
EdHill
10-15-2006, 08:40 PM
Totally random but somewhat related...
Starving war refugee or fashion model? (http://news.yahoo.com/photo/061007/481/aa0efca57a6d467ba96638bdc99bb32c;_ylt=AoR1UcVvlA7R kqWEagYsC2JPXLoF;_ylu=X3oDMTBia2Jza2VjBHNlYwNnYWxs ZXJ5)
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Gross. I hate chicks with fat elbows. She really needs to do something about that.
EdHill
10-15-2006, 08:45 PM
I was thinking that TG would say something along the lines of... 'Unfortunately Jeffery broke the rules and he cannot win PR but we will allow him to show at Bryant Park because the designs are clearly his.' I could live with that but I would have liked to see him completely barred from the runway, but we all know that didn't happen.
Who cares who would benefit from the money more? This is a thing that gets brought up in reference to reality shows all the time, so and so deserves to win because s/he has no money. That doens't hold water with me because the show is not about who has the worst life and needs the money. It is about the design quality in this case. The money while certain nice and no doubt will help set up their line the race is for recogniztion of the best talent not who has the worst bank balance.
Remember, if Jeffrey got booted for brealking the rules, they would still have him show as a decoy in order to keep it a secret until the show aired.
Jashba
10-16-2006, 10:10 AM
If they find anything in Jeffrey's receipts that isn't kosher, I wouldn't be surprised if they auf'd him before his runway show - along the lines of Kaura Saun and her shoes from Season 1
Call me crazy, but I love Jeffrey and all of his designs!
Okay, you're crazy.
ObstinantGirl
10-16-2006, 10:26 AM
Awww, may, you beat me to it!!! ;)
I'm chomping at the bit waiting for Wednesdays show! Is it on at 10pm as usual, or is it a 2-hour show starting earlier than that? Seems like a lot to fit into one hour...
basia.mille
10-16-2006, 02:22 PM
Okay, you're crazy.
Haha! I don't think I'll ever be able to understand the Jeffrey hate. I thought his recycle dress was awesome. His couture gone was fun and crazy. I love love loved his high flyer outfit... It was so stylized and well made. He has such a left field and interesting take on everything. I just love 'em. :P
Haha! I don't think I'll ever be able to understand the Jeffrey hate. I thought his recycle dress was awesome. His couture gone was fun and crazy. I love love loved his high flyer outfit... It was so stylized and well made. He has such a left field and interesting take on everything. I just love 'em. :P
I think a lot of the Jeffrey hate might be due to his actual personality, it can be really off-putting smtms. He tends to personally attack others, in a really mean-spirited way. But all that aside, his designs might not always appeal to everyone. I agree with the outfits you mentioned, I too liked his recycle dress (thot he should've won for that one), as well as his high flyer outfit. Ddn't care for the couture one personally, but I can understand why it won (b/c it was unique, different, one-of-a-kind). He definitely has talent, but i think his designs aren't for everyone or may not always be conventionally pleasing (like his Mom outfit or the Black & White challenge one). And when you add his personality in there, it really turns people off.
ObstinantGirl
10-16-2006, 03:33 PM
I think a lot of the Jeffrey hate might be due to his actual personalityThere's definitely that! But, I also dislike most of his designs too. And the ones I've seen online pictures of today, from his runway show? :blink: Horrible. They look cheap and gaudy.
His recycling outfit, was that the green/blue outfit with the faux belt? If so, I LOVED that dress. But I can't think of a single other outfit of his that I've liked. I hated the outfit he won for in the 'high flyer' challenge (I'll never forgive him for designing pants that draw ones attention to his crotch)...and I hated his couture dress (although I loved the fabrics & wish he'd done something else with them). His hooker outfit with the leggings was hideous. The "romantic" dress was 'okay'...I thought that the judges were a BIT harsh on that one.
Anyway, it seems to me that his style is one that would appeal to fewer people than any of the others...but who knows? I'm an old fogey at this point, I guess! And I'm much less interested in being 'trendy' than in finding styles that really suit me & are flattering and reasonably priced. I love Laura's outfits (well, except for the radically plunging necklines)...and from what we've seen of her runway show, IMO she's designed a GORGEOUS collection that truly reflects Laura, but isn't exactly what she's already done.
JerseyGirl
10-16-2006, 03:43 PM
Anyway, it seems to me that his style is one that would appeal to fewer people than any of the others...but who knows? I'm an old fogey at this point, I guess!
Don't worry, I'm 19 and his stuff doesn't appeal to me. Most of what he makes is just.....trashy.
I kinda think it is empirical fact that Jeff sucks as a human being but has some talent as a designer. I liked the plaid couture gown, so sue me. And his garbage dress was clearly the best of that challenge. I love Michael but he should not have won that challenge.
Anyway, I bet he's fine and nothing bad happens to him. Actually, as of right now, I think he wins. Of course, I have no idea and feel like it really is anybodies game.
Um, and I officially take back every negative thing I ever said about Laura. After her kid offered Tim Gunn turtle poop, I kinda forgave her all her plunging necklines and chicken cutlet breasts. I kinda want her to win now and I genuinely like her collection. Weird.
ObstinantGirl
10-18-2006, 11:18 AM
And his garbage dress was clearly the best of that challenge.I disagree, FWIW, I thought that Laura's dress was the best of the bunch. But I thought Jeffrey's was a very close 2nd. I didn't love Michael's.
I agree that the whole scandal regarding Jeffrey is probably a whole lot of nothing, and he'll show his collection.
So, I went and viewed all pictures of all 4 collections from the runway show on an online site (I can't remember the name of it, I'm sorry! I meant to bookmark it & paste the info here...) and I have to say that to me, Laura's is the clear winner, with Uli's 2nd, Jeffrey's 3rd, and Michael's 4th. But Jeffrey's and Michael's are both awful, so that's not saying much. Poor Michael. And Uli's is all over the place...some good, some horrible, some very strange.
I'm 100% rooting for Laura...I think she's great. And I love her designs, her spunk, her elegance...and yet she's down-to-earth as well. A great combination, to my mind. :thumbup1:
ETA that I'm terrified I won't be able to stay awake tonight for the show, because I'm sick & barely keeping my sniffly head upright.
OG I hope you feel better!:)
I like Laura too. Anyone who has turtle poop in her apt can't be all bad.
jenny10girl
10-18-2006, 12:10 PM
OG I hope you feel better!:)
I like Laura too. Anyone who has turtle poop in her apt can't be all bad.
I can only imagine what her apt smells like though...turtles tend to smell really, really bad...
OD-TV
10-18-2006, 12:16 PM
I am pulling for Uli to win. When Edhill and I were at the show, her collection was far better than the others. She was the only one that received any applause during her collection. laura's was good but it was all very alike and I would put her second, and Jeffrey has a strong collection but he is such a douche i would make him 3rd and I was really disppointed in Michaels - it looked really cheap and hoochie.
HoneyBunny
10-18-2006, 12:39 PM
I am all atwitter. Or as my Grams would say "I am as nervous as a long tailed cat in room full of rockers."
I doubt Jeffery will be disqualified (hopeful but doubtful). I also doubt he wins (because I still believe in karma and his sucks). I am also in doubt about my Michael winning. While I love cheap and hoochie (;) OD) it's not the look that will win over classic (Laura) or flowy (Uli).
I got my TimGunn bobblehead sitting next to the TV...we will be watching together tonight ~~
hb
I am all atwitter. Or as my Grams would say "I am as nervous as a long tailed cat in room full of rockers."
I doubt Jeffery will be disqualified (hopeful but doubtful). I also doubt he wins (because I still believe in karma and his sucks). I am also in doubt about my Michael winning. While I love cheap and hoochie (;) OD) it's not the look that will win over classic (Laura) or flowy (Uli).
I got my TimGunn bobblehead sitting next to the TV...we will be watching together tonight ~~
hb
oh HB, u are one of my fave posters, alw. manage to crack me up (guess u get it from Grams)! I agree w/your assessment of the final 4, and I guess if I had to vote for a winner, I would pick Uli. I saw the collections online a while ago and remember thnkg hers was the prettiest, and also the most varied. Michael's seemed too one-note & tacky---as if he went back & tried to work off that Pam Grier icon win & designed in that vein. Laura's collection had some classic, undeniably pretty stuff, but there were some duds in there, if memory serves. can't wait til tonight! i won't bother to talk abt J since i'm still hoping vs hope that his ugly ass gets disqualified. :sneaky2:
Of the remaining designers, I would wear Uli's clothes. (if I had the body for it, and I mean IF)
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