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Hardly@Work
11-08-2006, 11:45 AM
TGIW- only 6 1/2 more hours until LOST....am I the only one having a fit? I will admit, I caved and read insiderscoops post about tonight, and it looks to be a pretty good episode...the sneak preview on abc.com had me in tears....
:crying: :crying:

Ms. Tumnus
11-08-2006, 11:47 AM
I'm really excited, but I'm trying hard not to read or see anything beforehand. 6hrs 13 min. Yay!

Jinger
11-08-2006, 11:51 AM
NO!! You are not the only one that is geekin! Ever since the alarm went off this morning it's all I can think about! And every time I hear the commercial for tonight's episode and hear Sawyer say to Kate "close your eyes!!" I get the chills! I also realized something last time I heard it....when Kate says "they're going to kill Sawyer!!" who is she talking to!?? I can't remember the video previews so maybe they show it but they way she was talking I don't think she would speak to one of the Others that way right!!?

I am bursting with pride - I have fought my spoiler addiction for the past 7 frakkin days. It was definitely HARD and I know I still have a little over 6 hours left but so far, this is a major accomplishment for me!

Hardly@Work
11-08-2006, 01:50 PM
hanging my head in shame....I know I'm weak, but after the little clip on abc....man...its a suprise who she is talking to, I won't ruin it, but it brought tears to my eyes....well its time to go home...4 hours twelve minutes....looks like the episode lasts longer than an hour....cant wait for sawyer and kate to do IT...if that kiss was any indication should be hawt....

may1
11-08-2006, 02:00 PM
I am so proud of myself, I haven't looked at anything to spoil tonight's episode. I want to be surprised, and react as it happens.
Can't wait.

Jinger
11-08-2006, 02:27 PM
hanging my head in shame....I know I'm weak, but after the little clip on abc....man...its a suprise who she is talking to, I won't ruin it, but it brought tears to my eyes....

oh crap! You mean the answer to my question is out there and I can find it!?! I will never make it 3.5 more hours.....

jampony
11-08-2006, 07:16 PM
So what was the big hairy deal? They made it sound like something shocking was going to happen. I didn't read any of the spoilers, but nothing about this episode surprised me. It was great, of course, but I guess I expected more after watching all the previews.

PS: I love Captain Tightpants! :drool:

campfiregirl
11-08-2006, 07:42 PM
Wow Capt. Tightpants looked good:blushing: But barely even a nip slip.:mad:

zoobabe
11-09-2006, 04:41 AM
Wow Capt. Tightpants looked good:blushing: But barely even a nip slip.:mad:

Now I realize who you guys meant. He DID look good! I am really impressed by Jack now. He's just balls to the wall in sticking it to the man and not taking any shit from anyone. I didn't really think that there were any BIG moments last night like I expected, but the last five minutes did have me glued to the TV! Once again- the midsesonreplacements were useless.

Jinger
11-09-2006, 05:16 AM
All of my hard work avoiding spoilers....

I liked the episode, but I have to agree that there weren't any "holy shit" moments that made me glad I avoided the spoilage. And I'm with you zoobabe, Jack was a bad motherfrakker last night!

I am still not buying Kate and Sawyer. One of the best moments for me last night was when Jack and Kate saw each other for the first time since their abduction, my heart was pounding! There was more chemistry between them w/a glass wall than her and Sawyer had in all of their nekkedness. I am sure the camps are divided on this one, but I just think her and Jack are a much more believable couple!

TinkerbellAPixie
11-09-2006, 05:19 AM
I am still not buying Kate and Sawyer. One of the best moments for me last night was when Jack and Kate saw each other for the first time since their abduction, my heart was pounding! There was more chemistry between them w/a glass wall than her and Sawyer had in all of their nekkedness. I am sure the camps are divided on this one, but I just think her and Jack are a much more believable couple!

I agree - completely. From the moment they met Jack and Kate had sparks flying. I feel like the Sawyer/Kate union was more forced.

Ms. Tumnus
11-09-2006, 05:24 AM
All I could think about during the cage sex scene was that Ben was likely in his room of monitors enjoying the show, and using his hands while he still can.

Any theories on what Locke thinks he'll find when he "looks north"? The other inhabited hatch? Kate JAck and Sawyer?

And is anyone planning on watching Day Break? I have no interest.

dsheridan5
11-09-2006, 05:43 AM
I can't believe we have to wait until February. I'm dieing just thinking about it. I loved Jack last night. I think Kate may really love Jack, but since she has always hurt guys she loved she decided on Sawyer because he is more like she is. I hope they put some of these clips online. I don't plan on watching ABC's new show just to see them.

Pattijoretired
11-09-2006, 06:09 AM
I am also on the Jack and Kate bandwagon.

I won't be watching Day Break. I have not intereset in that show. I don't see how you can relive a day like that more then a couple of times and not get bored with it. It is like a drama of that movie Groundhog Day. Not a fan.

chick110
11-09-2006, 06:26 AM
Now that we've seen more of Kate's back story, it's obvious that Jack is more like the cop husband she had to leave and Sawyer is more like the conmen she's always hooked up with.

And I'm with you, zoobabe. Why do they keep bothering with these loser new people? Feed 'em to the polar bear or the monster, I say!

pearlblackdragon
11-09-2006, 07:05 AM
I think they were just blowing smoke up our collective asses with the Kate/Sawyer thing. I think she was faking it so that they wouldn't focus on Jack. The whole IM NOT LEAVING WITHOUT YOU!!!! She was talking to Jack not Sawyer. That's also why she wouldn't say I love you to Sawyer...looks like this love triangle will NEVER end. Although I do give the writers of the show props for keeping the triangle alive by faking us out. Only 3 1/2 months until the next episode. Stupid Daybreak.

plethLaura
11-09-2006, 07:57 AM
The ********************* are USELESS!! All they do is state the obvious and try to make their faces match the surrounding emotion.

Yeah the Kate/Sawyer thing is going to end badly. The variety of ways for their undoing is mind boggling to think about. I personally like the idea that Sawyer catches on to the unrequited love and beats the crap out of her. ok ok that won't happen but am I the only person who wants to see Kate get smacked around for being an idiot?

Not one dang thing about Michael/Walt. (WAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLTTTTTTTT?!?!)
Donde estas?

Sayid has lost his edge. I want more Sayid, Jin, Hurley, Sun, Rose even Claire. Charlie, not so much.

Yeah of course Ben can promise that he can get Jack off THAT island. It's a short trip!

dsheridan5
11-09-2006, 08:36 AM
Yeah of course Ben can promise that he can get Jack off THAT island. It's a short trip!


Exactly what I was thinking!

wendy_loohoo
11-09-2006, 09:00 AM
Now here is a silly question but the pregnancy test that Kate had, it came up negative right? I only ask because my stupid local ABC affiliate thought it would be great to run a big ticker at the bottom announcing that some idiot in Virginia beat another idiot in their senate race. I could tell but I was pretty sure it was negative.

And what did Kate do with those tickets, my guess is she cashed in both Oceanic tickets to Costa Rica for one to Australia. That was really smart Kate, how the heck do you think you were tracked there?

wendy_loohoo
11-09-2006, 09:05 AM
I just thought of another stupid Kate thing.

While she has the walkie talkie she has the power because well they all know that Jack is gonna let Benry die. Why doesn't she take the gun from jailer number one and say that she is taking Sawyer and then take the gun from Picket as well.

Even if they are one another island...which I sometimes believe and sometimes don't. I bet that they can run into Alex and she can help them get back to their island.

I sometimes believe it is a seperate island because they clearly lived on the same island as the ones the Losties currently occupy. But their workshop so to speak could be on a different island. But I cannot fully embrace that theory because if they did work on a different island how are they getting back and forth? Do they have other boats? Do they only use that mysterious sub to get back and forth?

Pekmboyd
11-09-2006, 09:45 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/11/09/new.island.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

The Lost island??? Now they can rescue them, ta da!

Tabby Lavalamp
11-09-2006, 01:22 PM
Evangeline Lilly - from Fort Saskatchewan Alberta, a small community just outside of Edmonton, Alberta.

Nathan Fillion, from Edmonton, Alberta.

Tabby Lavalamp - From Edmonton, Alberta, wondering how she can get on Lost and in that sandwich with the two locals done good.

may1
11-09-2006, 01:40 PM
First of all, who is Captain Tightpants?
I think that Kate had sex with Sawyer because she thought he was going to be killed. Pity sex. I agree that she loves Jack.
Ben won't be killed, but maybe he'll be paralized.
I noticed in the opening credits, Michael & Walt's actor's names were missing. Are they no longer on the show?
Desmond, wooo-hooo.
Won't be watching Daybreak.

angiemarie
11-09-2006, 02:31 PM
Evangeline Lilly - from Fort Saskatchewan Alberta, a small community just outside of Edmonton, Alberta.

Nathan Fillion, from Edmonton, Alberta.

Tabby Lavalamp - From Edmonton, Alberta, wondering how she can get on Lost and in that sandwich with the two locals done good.

Tabby, you naughty minx!

First of all, who is Captain Tightpants?
I think that Kate had sex with Sawyer because she thought he was going to be killed. Pity sex. I agree that she loves Jack.
Ben won't be killed, but maybe he'll be paralized.
I noticed in the opening credits, Michael & Walt's actor's names were missing. Are they no longer on the show?
Desmond, wooo-hooo.
Won't be watching Daybreak.

Captain Tightpants is Nathan Fillion (sp?) who played Kate's husband in the flashback. He was on a sci-fi-ish show call Serenity.

BSL
11-09-2006, 02:59 PM
Ok I know this show is all about suspending reality...oh, 95% of the time. But HOW does Kate have shaved armpits?!!?!? The least they could have done was not show them up close to highlight the fact that they were shaved.

And also, unless I've missed an outhouse scene, they must pee and poop in those cages. Which is a GREAT place to have sex! To say nothing of the B.O. and bad breath....

Now, that being said, when Sawyer said, "I love you too" I had to rewind and watch so I could squeal loudly. It was so sweet! Plus you know he really means and you know she doesn't love him. Bittersweet!

and I totally had goosebumps when Jack saw Kate for the first time. I'm a Matthew Fox fan 100% (give me Charlie over Bailey any day of the week and twice on Sunday) but did he not do a fantastic job? He does that almost-cry thing so well!

jampony
11-09-2006, 05:04 PM
First of all, who is Captain Tightpants?
He is my new avatar. And if you check out my profile you'll get a yummy surprise!


Captain Tightpants is Nathan Fillion (sp?) who played Kate's husband in the flashback. He was on a sci-fi-ish show call Serenity.
Nathan Fillion was on a sci-fi-ish show called Firefly. Serenity was the movie and not nearly as good as the series. But it served its purpose and made Firefly fans happy.


I am still not buying Kate and Sawyer. One of the best moments for me last night was when Jack and Kate saw each other for the first time since their abduction, my heart was pounding! There was more chemistry between them w/a glass wall than her and Sawyer had in all of their nekkedness. I am sure the camps are divided on this one, but I just think her and Jack are a much more believable couple!
Am I the only person who doesn't see sexual chemistry between Jack and Kate? They obviously care a lot about each other, but sometimes I get the feeling it's more platonic; almost brother/sister.


And is anyone planning on watching Day Break? I have no interest.
No interest whatsoever.


I noticed in the opening credits, Michael & Walt's actor's names were missing. Are they no longer on the show?
They haven't been part of the credits all season. This week's Ask Ausiello had an interview with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse and Walt and Michael are mentioned. (Some spoilers.)


Ok I know this show is all about suspending reality...oh, 95% of the time. But HOW does Kate have shaved armpits?!!?!? The least they could have done was not show them up close to highlight the fact that they were shaved.

And also, unless I've missed an outhouse scene, they must pee and poop in those cages. Which is a GREAT place to have sex! To say nothing of the B.O. and bad breath....
Their breath is all I kept thinking about. I didn't even think of her pits or their poop. Blech.

shoebaron
11-09-2006, 09:35 PM
They haven't been part of the credits all season. This week's Ask Ausiello had an interview with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse and Walt and Michael are mentioned. (Some spoilers.)

would you happen to have the link to that? i'd be interested in reading the interview
am I the only one who hates kate? I just find her so annoying. Jack only got cool after he was seperated from her by the others, and now she's making Sawyer annoying too:thumbdown:
I was expecting some big wow moment but the surgery and everything was interesting, I suppose. I think last week's episode (with Juliett's video) would have been a better ending, much more intense
Guess I forgot to say this in the last episode they were actually in (oops!) but does anyone else think that Claire and Desmond would be a cute couple? Desmond would be a better father figure then Charlie

jampony
11-10-2006, 03:43 AM
would you happen to have the link to that? i'd be interested in reading the interview

Here's the link (http://www.tvguide.com/News-Views/Columnists/Ask-Ausiello/). (It starts at about the seventh question down.)

chick110
11-10-2006, 06:00 AM
This made me happy, happy, happy!

"We certainly plan to tell the audience this year how Locke got in the wheelchair."

I figured it was because of his "dad" taking his kidney and the operation got botched or something. Glad to know that that story will finally get told. :D

may1
11-10-2006, 07:17 AM
Ok, if I hadn't had sex in what, 60 days?, I wouldn't care if his breath was bad, had poop on the ground, smelled sweaty. As long as he looked like Sawyer, I'm in!

Thanks for the surprise Jampony! I'd take that with stinky breath too.

pearlblackdragon
11-10-2006, 07:39 AM
Ok, if I hadn't had sex in what, 60 days?, I wouldn't care if his breath was bad, had poop on the ground, smelled sweaty. As long as he looked like Sawyer, I'm in!



Finally a voice of reason......

OD-TV
11-10-2006, 07:44 AM
Finally a voice of reason......

I'm jumping on that bandwagon!

Ms. Tumnus
11-10-2006, 07:53 AM
I'm jumping on that bandwagon!

It's not just the bandwagon I'd be jumping on, fishcake breath and all.

jenny10girl
11-10-2006, 08:18 AM
I thought I was the only one who noticed Kate's shaved armpits. Glad I'm not the only one. :) I was beginning to think I had issues or something. ;)

BSL
11-10-2006, 09:25 AM
Ok, if I hadn't had sex in what, 60 days?, I wouldn't care if his breath was bad, had poop on the ground, smelled sweaty. As long as he looked like Sawyer, I'm in!

Don't get me wrong, I would have jumped Jack 10 days into it but I'd have to keep kissing to a minimum. I'm just very sensitive when it comes to bad breath.

yevvie
11-10-2006, 09:30 AM
I thought I was the only one who noticed Kate's shaved armpits. Glad I'm not the only one. :) I was beginning to think I had issues or something. ;)

Me and my boyfriend watch the show together every week and I am CONSTANTLY harping on the hygeine stuff--they've been on the island for months, no way are her pits nice and smooth, not to mention the rest of her! I can only imagine her bikini line at that point :P

Plus yeah, they may have had a shower and stuff back on the beach, but they've been stuck in those cages for days--i don't care how horny i am or how hot a guy is, i am not gonna have filthy cage-sex when both of us stink like BO, surrounded by our own filth, in the middle of the jungle and with filthy others lurking about.

P.S. I was so sad when I thought Sawyer was gonna die, he just looked so broken! I want Kate to love him, even though it seems she might not... I hate the Kate/Jack coupling, and I agree that Jack has gotten way more interesting since he's been separated from her. This episode finally made me respect him a little!

Can't believe I have to wait til damn freakin February to see what happens next! AARGHHH!

Jinger
11-10-2006, 09:46 AM
Ok, if I hadn't had sex in what, 60 days?, I wouldn't care if his breath was bad, had poop on the ground, smelled sweaty. As long as he looked like Sawyer, I'm in!


I have gone waaaay longer than 60 days w/no sex but would still insist on a poop-free environment and no BO or fuzzy teeth!

Although... I have never been stranded on an island in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of crazy shit going on all around me so who's to say what I would do. I guess you don't know until you're faced with it!

chick110
11-10-2006, 12:07 PM
Think about it this way... Having hot monkey sex with SAWYER (of all people) in a cage with God-knows-what in it and God-knows-who watching OR sitting in your own cage being good. I know what choice I'd take!!! :drool:

OD-TV
11-10-2006, 12:21 PM
I thought I was the only one who noticed Kate's shaved armpits. Glad I'm not the only one. :) I was beginning to think I had issues or something. ;)

Um...where the hell have you been? You act like you are planning a wedding or something.

BSL
11-10-2006, 01:57 PM
Um...where the hell have you been? You act like you are planning a wedding or something.

I was just wondering if Jenny10girl got married this morning in the shower!!

:sweatdrop:

That didn't come out right...

OD-TV
11-10-2006, 03:45 PM
I was just wondering if Jenny10girl got married this morning in the shower!!

:sweatdrop:

That didn't come out right...

Yeah, I had to read that one a few times ...

Pekmboyd
11-10-2006, 05:01 PM
I have gone waaaay longer than 60 days w/no sex but would still insist on a poop-free environment and no BO or fuzzy teeth!

Although... I have never been stranded on an island in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of crazy shit going on all around me so who's to say what I would do. I guess you don't know until you're faced with it!

I had a much bigger problem with the fact that they did it when they SHOULD know they're being watched, otherwise how would Ben have known to turn off the electrical current when Sawyer came up with the plan to shock whoever came to get him?

may1
11-11-2006, 09:59 AM
I think Ben turns off the electricity when someone goes to Sawyer's cage. Although they are being watched, I'm not sure they are aware of it.

BTW, does anyone know what happened to the black lady (don't know her name) who was an "other" at their fake camp. Remember she was with Waaalllttt, and Michael. I had the feeling she was someone "in charge", but now I can't recall seeing her since. Anyone?

basia.mille
11-12-2006, 07:58 AM
I'm pretty sure Ben told Sawyer point blank that they were watching them and warned him not to tell Kate or else he'd put a pacemaker in her heart too. Right? Maybe I'm wrong.

Also, I think the black lady's name is Ms. Klugh (pronounced Ms. Clue). I have no idea where she is, but I bet we won't hear from her until the end of the season. Or maybe the middle of next season. Who knows?

zoobabe
11-13-2006, 05:43 AM
I'm pretty sure Ben told Sawyer point blank that they were watching them and warned him not to tell Kate or else he'd put a pacemaker in her heart too. Right? Maybe I'm wrong.

Also, I think the black lady's name is Ms. Klugh (pronounced Ms. Clue). I have no idea where she is, but I bet we won't hear from her until the end of the season. Or maybe the middle of next season. Who knows?

the pacemaker point is moot now, b/c Sawyer never got one. It was just a con. Jack doesn't know what Sawyer and Kate know about the island either, so telling them to "run" may be why they're hesitant. Nice punch by Jack in the operating room though.:)

TinkerbellAPixie
11-13-2006, 11:35 AM
I re-watched this yesterday and noticed something I didn't pick up onthe first viewing. Ed may have mentioned this in his recap, but I haven't read it yet. When they capture Alex the thing she tells Juliet is that she really needs to talk to Ben. Cut to Ben on the OR table and he asks Juliet "did Alex ask for me?" and she lies and says "No". So does this confirm that Juliet is an evil other? If they wanted to kill Ben - why would they care that Jack had nicked his kidney? Wouldn't it benefit them to let him bleed out?

zoobabe
11-13-2006, 11:49 AM
I re-watched this yesterday and noticed something I didn't pick up onthe first viewing. Ed may have mentioned this in his recap, but I haven't read it yet. When they capture Alex the thing she tells Juliet is that she really needs to talk to Ben. Cut to Ben on the OR table and he asks Juliet "did Alex ask for me?" and she lies and says "No". So does this confirm that Juliet is an evil other? If they wanted to kill Ben - why would they care that Jack had nicked his kidney? Wouldn't it benefit them to let him bleed out?

good pick up on the Alex thing Tink. As far as Juliet goes, I thought she had to make it look like she was trying to save Ben and wanted Jack to kill him on the table. I thought she was just pretending to be shocked and concerned about Jack's play. She probably really WAS shocked at the way he went about it though.

basia.mille
11-13-2006, 12:03 PM
the pacemaker point is moot now, b/c Sawyer never got one. It was just a con. Jack doesn't know what Sawyer and Kate know about the island either, so telling them to "run" may be why they're hesitant. Nice punch by Jack in the operating room though.:)

Oh, I know that. I was trying to remember if Kate and Sawyer knew if there were cameras watching the cages. I think Ben told Sawyer that there were cameras and to not tell Kate or else he'd put a pacemaker in her heart too. Of course there was no pacemaker to begin with... maybe Sawyer assumed that he was lying about the cameras too or something.

The Juliet thing is interesting. Maybe she didn't want to stress Ben out too much before the operation. But if she is evil, maybe she lied about them taking Alex home as well, maybe Alex isn't safe. That's another interesting point - Juliet mentioned that they took Alex home. Where does Alex live anyway?

I always thought that Juliet wanted Ben dead, but the Other others didn't know about this. To me, it seems as though she's power-hungry and doesn't want Ben in her way. It seems like the other Others - Tom, Picket, etc - still have alot of respect for Ben.

may1
11-13-2006, 12:10 PM
Good catch, Tink. Didn't Alex also tell Kate not to believe what they tell her? I'm going to have to rewatch the episode. I'm glad I didn't erase it from the dvr.
Damn, we have to wait til Feb. I like Taye Diggs and all, but I hope the new show tanks and they have to put Lost on. Wishful thinking.

basia.mille
11-13-2006, 12:14 PM
I'd rather sit through 3 months of Lost re-runs from previous seasons than Day Break.

Tabby Lavalamp
11-13-2006, 12:48 PM
Again I find myself in the minority 'round these parts, because I'm looking forward to Day Break. It looks like it'll be good. And if not, at least I'll have given it a chance. :p

wendy_loohoo
11-13-2006, 01:23 PM
I re-watched this yesterday and noticed something I didn't pick up onthe first viewing. Ed may have mentioned this in his recap, but I haven't read it yet.


Well Ed may have mentioned it in his recap but he isn't sharing with the rest of us. I thought I might have missed the recap and just check...nothing.:(

When they capture Alex the thing she tells Juliet is that she really needs to talk to Ben. Cut to Ben on the OR table and he asks Juliet "did Alex ask for me?" and she lies and says "No".

I completely missed that! Now I am bummed that I decided to read my book rather than rewatch the episode. What was I thinking?:confused:

may1
11-13-2006, 02:33 PM
Another thing I was wondering about - remember right when the surgery started, Danny & his co-hort went to see Sawyer and he said something to the effect of "he wasn't on Jacob's list anyway" or Joshua's list, for heavens sake - somebody's list. I know he was speaking about Sawyer not being on a list. Who's list? A character we haven't met yet?

zoobabe
11-13-2006, 03:50 PM
Another thing I was wondering about - remember right when the surgery started, Danny & his co-hort went to see Sawyer and he said something to the effect of "he wasn't on Jacob's list anyway" or Joshua's list, for heavens sake - somebody's list. I know he was speaking about Sawyer not being on a list. Who's list? A character we haven't met yet?

I was thinking that he's a character we haven't met yet, but must be the same guy that created the list that Ana Lucia recovered from the Other that she killed after they kidnapped the children from the Tailies. It would suggest that Sawyer is not one of the "good guys".

zevonia
11-13-2006, 03:54 PM
Another thing I was wondering about - remember right when the surgery started, Danny & his co-hort went to see Sawyer and he said something to the effect of "he wasn't on Jacob's list anyway" or Joshua's list, for heavens sake - somebody's list. I know he was speaking about Sawyer not being on a list. Who's list? A character we haven't met yet?

When Eko fought the others who were trying to kidnap him (way back when the tailies were first introduced) and killed one there was a list of passenger names in the other's pocket. The people on the list were the ones being taken. I'm assuming that's there was a list for both groups of passengers and that's what Danny was refering to in this episode.

basia.mille
11-13-2006, 05:17 PM
Another thing I was wondering about - remember right when the surgery started, Danny & his co-hort went to see Sawyer and he said something to the effect of "he wasn't on Jacob's list anyway" or Joshua's list, for heavens sake - somebody's list. I know he was speaking about Sawyer not being on a list. Who's list? A character we haven't met yet?

I think he was talking about Jack, not Sawyer. He said "Sheppard wasn't on Jacob's list anyway."

TinkerbellAPixie
11-13-2006, 05:33 PM
I think he was talking about Jack, not Sawyer. He said "Sheppard wasn't on Jacob's list anyway."

Seems that the list we know of - was the tailie list. Because they were systematically taking people from the tailie camp. Now Ben had sent people to both sides of the wreckage and wanted lists from both. How come no one on the front was kidnapped? Ok Claire was - but was she the only fuselage person on that list? Wouldn't you think Rose would have classified as "good"?

basia.mille
11-13-2006, 07:23 PM
Maybe they don't really need Rose for anything. Good could also mean useful to the Others.

I'm thinking Jacob is in a higher position of power than Ben, and wanted those Tallies, Kate, Sawyer, and Claire for a greater purpose (in his eyes) than to save Ben's life. Ben later created the list for Michael, adding Jack, in hopes of a chance of him saving his life through a spinal operation. Jacob probably didn't need Jack on the list because he thinks he's useless to him.

chick110
11-14-2006, 02:53 PM
Another thing I was wondering about - remember right when the surgery started, Danny & his co-hort went to see Sawyer and he said something to the effect of "he wasn't on Jacob's list anyway" or Joshua's list, for heavens sake - somebody's list. I know he was speaking about Sawyer not being on a list. Who's list? A character we haven't met yet?

But don't forget that Sawyer isn't really his name, so it wouldn't appear on the list anyway. When I first started typing this, I DID remember his name, but I got distracted by the TV (stupid ADD) and I forgot it again... :rolleyes2:

may1
11-14-2006, 03:44 PM
Chick110, you crack me up!
I think his name is John something. Ford maybe?

jampony
11-14-2006, 03:45 PM
Kate called him James when she was escaping from her cell.

Pekmboyd
11-14-2006, 09:49 PM
I'm pretty sure Ben told Sawyer point blank that they were watching them and warned him not to tell Kate or else he'd put a pacemaker in her heart too. Right? Maybe I'm wrong.

Also, I think the black lady's name is Ms. Klugh (pronounced Ms. Clue). I have no idea where she is, but I bet we won't hear from her until the end of the season. Or maybe the middle of next season. Who knows?

I thought Ms. Klugh was in the opening scene of the season, when you see a whole bunch of Others when Juliet comes out of her house, but I'm not sure. Plenty of time to rewatch now I guess.

the pacemaker point is moot now, b/c Sawyer never got one. It was just a con.

I'm not sure that's a good enough reason to believe they aren't being watched...like because the pacemaker was a lie the surveillance is too? If it was me, I'd just assume I'm being watched and try not to have sex in the dirt.

I re-watched this yesterday and noticed something I didn't pick up onthe first viewing. Ed may have mentioned this in his recap, but I haven't read it yet. When they capture Alex the thing she tells Juliet is that she really needs to talk to Ben. Cut to Ben on the OR table and he asks Juliet "did Alex ask for me?" and she lies and says "No". So does this confirm that Juliet is an evil other? If they wanted to kill Ben - why would they care that Jack had nicked his kidney? Wouldn't it benefit them to let him bleed out?

Depends on whether Juliet is acting alone or if many of the Others are on her side as far as wanting Ben to die. Maybe it's just her big power play? Aside from that, if he's dying of spinal cancer or whatever, why does she want Jack to kill him? Seems the cancer will take care of that by itself.

Kate called him James when she was escaping from her cell.

James is right. James Ford.

Ms. Tumnus
11-15-2006, 05:59 AM
I thought Ms. Klugh was in the opening scene of the season, when you see a whole bunch of Others when Juliet comes out of her house, but I'm not sure.

I'm pretty sure that she was at the book club:
http://www.losthatch.com/images/screen_captures/S3E01_Book_Club_Carrie_SK.jpg

wendy_loohoo
11-15-2006, 07:08 AM
Seems that the list we know of - was the tailie list. Because they were systematically taking people from the tailie camp. Now Ben had sent people to both sides of the wreckage and wanted lists from both. How come no one on the front was kidnapped? Ok Claire was - but was she the only fuselage person on that list? Wouldn't you think Rose would have classified as "good"?

I am not sure why no one from the front was kidnapped besides Claire, but wouldn't Ethan have made that list for the front? Why wouldn't he have put Jack's name on it? We know that Ethan had contact with the others while he was lurking in the Losties camp.